Vivo Technologie Polaris 360 Oder 380 Mega Alle Zweck Ersatz Bag Passt Polaris 360 Oder 380
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I am updating this to 2-stars for now on the basis of excellent customer service. I will increase it further if the company is able to get the bag to work for me. But if it were a customer service review alone, 5-stars. The maker of the bag tracked me down to try and help. Nice guy. I appreciate that initiative. So far I still don't have a usable cleaner as it still is dumping the contents when it turns off, and I have also developed the same floating problem others have mentioned in reviews. Still working with the owner on these.
I will say all this effort to make it work caused me to closely compare the design to the original factory Polaris bag. There are two key differences which I think are contributing to the current problems:
1) The original Polaris bag has a stitching that separates the first third of the bag that connects to the cleaner from the bulk of the bag that collects the debris. This stitching ends about 2/3rds of the way up the bag. But it's an effective design -- when the cleaner is on the water pressure pushes debris up the channel defined by the stitching and over the top of the stitching where the debris settles down on the bottom side of the bag. So when the cleaner is cycled off, the stitching blocks it from gravity-drifting back into the cleaner tube and out into the pool. This bag being reviews has no equivalent feature.
2) This bag has wings of extra material that allow the bag to expand more than the original factory bag. That allows more capacity if you have large leaves or big debris. But I also wonder if it allows it to become more of a balloon which is what contributes to it floating for some people, including me. I have a small amount of air at the top of my pump - not enough to see bubbles at the pool returns or prevent full operation but perhaps the combo of pool equipment with some air and the shape of the bag conspire to cause this.
FINAL UPDATE 5/30/2013:
Again, I give credit for the absolutely fantastic attempt at customer service. They proactively sent me another bag, at their expense and without my even requesting it to try and solve the problem. Called me multiple times. Send step-by-step instructions on how to try and solve the problem. So I give them huge credit for that and therefore am elevating the rating to 3-stars.
All that said, after a second bag performed exactly the same -- i.e. dumping much of the dirt back out into the pool as soon as the sweep turned off for the day -- I just ordered a replacement bag on Amazon from Polaris. Put it on and problem instantly solved. Pool looks amazingly clean now.
It is 100% clear that the lack of the stitching separating the two halves of the bag makes all the difference, at least for small dirt and debris like my pool gets -- I get very few large leaves, etc. The owner/manufacture of the bag said that the reason he didn't maintain the stitching in his version is because it would cause too many people to get leaves jammed in the opening of their bags and prevent new debris from passing into the bag. So this may come down to two factors: 1) What kind of debris does your pool typically have? 2) How powerful is your pump? In my case I get mostly small debris and have a powerful (2 HP) pump. So I don't have an issue with leaves jamming the bag. If you're like my, as much as I love the personal commitment of the company, you probably are better off with the actual Polaris bag. If you did experience issues like the leaf jamming with the Polaris bag then by all means get this bag which is less expensive and well supported by the former owner of Polaris...
- Uh ... the bag stands straight up when the Polaris is at rest! What happens? All the debris falls right back out of the bag onto the pool floor! It's called gravity. I noticed the bag design when I put it on, it was not curved like the Polaris bag. Why? Patents. There's a reason the Polaris bag works BY DESIGN and this one does not.
If you made the mistake I made and bought one of these, fasten the velcro strap that normally goes on the hose clip UNDER the last hose nut next to the Polaris. This will force the bag to bend over and not drop out the debris until you purchase a REAL POLARIS BAG.
- It's true the velcro is poor. After one empty it failed to stick back together well.
- Also the design is inferior and drops debris to the pool floor (see above).
- The fasteners to the Polaris top are not as rigid as Polaris so allegedly they will fail quicker. This happened with the bag I replaced, it would not stay snapped on the Polaris.
- The reviews are correct. The mesh of this bag is different than Polaris and it traps much more water flow. I would guess that in a short period it would cause the velcro and snap to fail.
- It will work until I get a real Polaris bag.
Stick with Polaris. I've tried all the knock-off parts from wheels to back-up valves to everything inside and they just don't work like the real Polaris parts. We love/hate our Polaris, but it's still the best cleaner out there ....
The seller (Moonlight Pool Supply) also has great customer service: I received two free bags out of the blue. The note inside said that some people had complained about the velcro so they redid everything and sent out new free bags to those customers they could track. Thanks! Now how about making some of those big blue course mesh leaf bags?
I always take the bags out of the pool when shocking or when the chlorine gets too high, since that decreases their life. Also, I sew up the tears to keep them going for as long as possible (we call them 'franken-bags'). Sometimes we put the foot & leg of a pantyhose inside the bag to pick up more silt, too. I guess it just irritates me when I buy a product and end up spending hundreds of dollars to buy consumables for the product (like printer ink or refrigerator water filters or Polaris bags). I'm happy to see Polaris get some competition.
Velcro closure wearing out? Suggestion: buy 2 bags, swap them when full, let the full bag dry out before dumping the contents. That keeps the
yucky stuff out of the Velcro. These are half-price so go for a pair !