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am 3. November 1998
Ringworld and Ringworld Engineers were each a triumph of science fiction, earning Larry Niven the awards and accolades of his peers and fans. Ringworld Throne was not even a whipping of the proverbial dead horse, as the Ringworld concept is still as fresh and untapped as it was over 20 years ago. It was simply a very bad book.
Characters from the first two books put in an almost secondary appearance, being overshadowed by poorly developed and disinteresting new characters. Plot lines were introduced and abandoned, while miniscule issues were examined in nauseating detail. While I thought the book would never end, it eventually did, leaving the "main" characters in the exact same situation the book started in. Niven apparantly didn't want to close any opportunities for cranking out additional books.
As Larry Niven has been a favorite author of mine since I was literally a child, I have eagerly awaited each and every new novel he has published. I therefore feel qualified to state that the quality of his writing has been on a steady downward spiral for about a decade, culminating with the latest "Destiny's Road", a truly abysmal book.
One more thing Larry: The incessant oversexing of every character has become tedious in the extreme. If you want to write eroticism, go ahead, but the ad nauseum "and then they had sex" plot developoments isn't winning any praise.
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am 18. Juni 1998
The first half, I found really quite engrossing, if oversexed and lacking a satisfying conclusion. I quite enjoyed the reading, until it dawned on me that the book was ending without anything really happening. It was silly in parts. The sequences about the fighting protectors - as seen from the point of view of various webeyes - reminded me of sf TV which is too cheap to put its protagonist right in the action, so it has him looking at a small display of it instead (think Star Trek). This lent a disposessed feeling to the entire second half.
Really, TRT struck me as two short stories smucked together, with references to one another hastily pasted between chapters to raise the pretense of unity. But there was none. (What did the massing vampires have to do with the second half, anyway? Precious little.) Characters that we might have cared about are summarily dropped after Part I; the characters from Part II that we began to care about are summarily dropped when the book ends. This strange format prevents the novel from having any real punch to it.
A neat read and an interesting expansion on life under the Arch - but without that magical power of 'Ringworld'.
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am 23. Juni 1997
"Ringworld Throne" was... okay; not horrible, not great. Youabsolutely must have read "Ringworld" and "Ringworld Engineers", since"Throne" assumes that you are familiar with the Ringworld, who built it, Louis Wu, puppeteers, etc. (Okay, it would all be rather complicated to recap at this point... but books that are part of a series should be labelled as such, darnit!) "Throne" also suffers a bit from really being two short novels rather than one long one: an expedition against a vampire nest, told from the POV of Ringworld natives, and then more adventures of Louis Wu and the Hindmost. The first part was mildly interesting but had the feel of being an adapted RPG adventure. The second part moved *fast* and I'm still not sure it all made sense. And there's really too much _rishathra_ -- don't species have any other ways to say hello -- and too many conversations cut off because someone had to go to sleep. Still, it was a readable read; Niven's obviously having some fun, and there are some interestng new looks at the races of the Ringworld. If you're a big Niven fan, or if you enjoyed the other two books, this one is probably worth getting.
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As a native of Brasil I had few oppotunities(before internet age) of knowing great SF authors.It was something of a God's gift when, back in 1982 , by chance ,I had the opportunity of reading the entire Known Space series and , as the years went by ,the other Niven`s books.If something really changed my intelectual life was the depth , coherence and (yes) empathy that Niven's characters , plots and technological inventions inspired in me. So I felt duty-bound to write and say to all would-be Nivens's fans:keep away from this book!The plot is so confusing that even I who`ve been rereading the Known Space series for years didn`t manage to follow it.The writing is uncharacteristically poor and at the end I felt like something in me had been...well,maculated.Please,Niven,remeber all the joy you caused and refrain from spoiling the greatest pseudo-universe ever created in Science Fiction with books like this.
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am 4. Juni 2000
Reviewing a book, especially a novel, is a supremely subjective undertaking - and reading the reviews of Larry Niven's "Ringworld Throne" posted here is proof of that. Personally, although I would certainly not rate it as equal to the original "Ringworld" or even the first sequel, I enjoyed the book and kept reading intently right through the end. I have been reading Niven's "Known Space" tales for more than thirty years. He specializes in extrapolating entire new worlds and societies from some particular technological innovation or physical attribute. Undoubtedly his most outstanding creation has been the artificial world chronicled in "Ringworld," "Ringworld Engineers," and most recently "Ringworld Throne." I would hesitate reading this last volume without being very familiar with the preceding two and, for that matter, other books and short stories set in the "Known Space" universe. Without knowing the background of puppeteers and kzins and protectors, a new reader would not catch many plot intricacies. But with such a familiarity the stories, "Ringworld Throne" is an intriguing extension of what has gone before, adding new pieces of information and changing a few assumptions. For my own part, I look forward to the day when Niven writes the next installment in the Ringworld saga and the adventures of Louis Wu.
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am 31. Januar 2000
The Ringworld Throne was the first book in the trilogy that I read, and I thoroughly enjoyed it - perhaps due to the fact that I did not have any pre-expectations about it, as so many of the other reviewers here did.
The first part of the book, which I enjoyed slightly better than the second, and which I thought made somewhat better sense, tells of the adventure of a group of Ringworld natives in their quest to free their land from the Ringworld vampires - hominid beings that are nonsentient, which feed on blood, and which lure their victims by using sexual pheromones. Niven does an excellent job of creating technologically disadvantaged characters who, nevertheless, have wit, intelligence, and considerable problem-solving skills, in stark contrast to the first Ringworld book, in which he simply portrays the Ringworld natives as brainless, stupid folk who automatically worship technology- bearing people as gods.
The first part of the book is an exciting adventure in the Ringworld, while the second is more interesting on an intellectual level. It tells how Louis Wu, the Hindmost, and Acolyte, (Kzin son of Chmee) become involved in the protector-struggles on the Ringworld.
As this was the first Niven book I read, I found some parts of it confusing, and one or two parts utterly incomprehensible, due to my lack of understanding of puppeteers, protectors, and kzinti. (Much of the behaviour of the characters in the second part of the book confused me, and the several discussions of events in the previous books made no sense at all to me). This did not, however, prevent me from thoroughly enjoying the book - and it is not true that the book was completely incomprehensible.
The paradox which this book creates is this: If you read it without reading the other two Ringworld Books first, you will inevitably be confused to some degree. However, if you do read the other books first, you will find that the third volume falls short of your expectations. I enjoyed Ringworld Throne, as I did not know what to expect, and I do not believe it to be an inferior book to the other two - it is only different.
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am 6. Juni 1999
Whatever happened to Larry Niven? When I first got into science fiction about15 years ago, it was Larry Niven's stories I always went back to after reading something terrible, just to remind myself what great stories were like. Does anyone else still remember the feelings they had as they read Footfall, The Legacy of Herot, Lucifer's Hammer or the first Ringworld novel? I sure do, and it was incredible! But let me tell you something; the gig is up. After reading this piece of trash, I couldnt bring myself to touch another Larry Niven work for months. And then when I did, it was a book that was even worse: Children of Beowulf (or whatever its called). I'd like to make a deal with Mr. Niven. If you promise to delete these books from the publisher's catalog, and NEVER speak of them again, I promise to spend my money on your next book. Deal?
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am 18. März 1998
Having greatly enjoyed both RINGWORLD and RINGWORLD ENGINEERS I was rather disappointed with this outing. It seemed to be more of an excuse to have the characters go around rishing with each other than to expand on the Ringworld mythos. A much better plot would have been to explore the question of who really built the thing as it had been implied in ENGINEERS that the Pak had only colonized it later. My own humble suggestion- a covert group of the Tnuctipun were the real builders and are now coming out of their stasis storage bunkers deep in the bowels of the command center and are appalled by the rampant infestation of alien beings on what was to be their safe and secret hideaway from the Thrint. Hey Larry, are you reading this?
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am 10. Mai 1997
Larry Niven's third Ringworld book reads like something hewrote in response to pressure from his publishers. Nothing muchhappens in the first half of the novel, with the main characters from the previous two Ringworld novels appearing briefly, if at all.
Things start happening in the second half, but by then it's too late, and the results seems to have been rushed -- especially the ending, which I had to re-read a few times to figure out what happened (or more precisely, what didn't happen).
This novel should have undergone a major rewrite before publication, eliminating most of the first half and expanding on the second. As it stands, it's a major disappointment which adds little to the mythos of Known Space.
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am 26. Juni 1997
I started reading Larry Nivens Known Space stories when I was avery young teenager. My faovourites are Man-Kzinti wars and theNeutron Star. What I like about Known Space is that the stories tend to connect through a common historyline. Here Ringworld Throne fails a little. The protectors are not well cared for historically speaking. I would like more background of protectors next time around. The book did not catch me like most other known space stories. Try again Larry!
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