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Masters - Brahms: Sinfonie Nr. 4 / Tragische Ouvertüre

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5.0 von 5 Sternen An astounding Brahms Fourth, if you're receptive to Bernstein's approach 28. April 2014
Von Nom de clavier - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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In his later years, Bernstein tended to slow down and milk every last drop of expression out of the 19th century Romantic works he conducted. This produced some real duds (his Tchaikovsky 6th is particularly notorious), but also some very treasurable recordings, among which is this Brahms 4th, which is the most passionate I've ever heard. Bernstein gets some wonderfully tender playing out of the incomparable Vienna Philharmonic--the second movement alone is worth the price of admission. Despite the slow tempi, the performance never goes slack. After the intense passacaglia finale, which is taken at a particularly slow pace (Bernstein takes 12 minutes, compared to Kleiber's 9), I was left utterly drained.

I can understand someone not being taken in by this performance. Listeners who insist on fidelity to the composer's tempo markings--Bernstein turns "Andante moderato" and "Allegro Energico" into "Adagio molto" and "Andante"--will be disappointed. But for me, Bernstein's only peers in the 4th are Kleiber and Furtwangler (and Haitink and Karajan, if I'm feeling generous). This recording features better sound than any of the other conductors listed got, the only flaw being some glassiness in the treble typical for early digital recordings.
4.0 von 5 Sternen Brahms & unorganized ensemble 6. Oktober 2015
Von RLB - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
This recording has had it's day in the sun. The "loose" and inconsistent ensemble through out Bernstein's Brahms cycle is apparent here, as the symptom exists on all his DG/VPO Brahms, with the third nearly outrageous. The main negative feature here is the prevailing lack of musical tension and thrust. Everything is smoothed out, tonally casual, dynamically lacking, strolling. The tonality Brahms (the master of tonality) writes into the score is largely missing. The ebb and flow, the counterpoint weakened, the sense of long-ago, melancholy is all diluted. A strangely "draggy" tempo permeates the score. DG has at least two other contrasting readings, classic Kleiber and Giulini's that offer a more vital pulse, more emotion, etc. The CD online catalogs contain other Brahms 4th' well worth investigating. This recording has just run it's course.
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3.0 von 5 Sternen Interesting but WAAAAYYYY too slow 18. November 2005
Von Joey Joe Joe Jr. Shabadoo - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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I first listened to this disc after finding that I liked Bernstein's Mozart, as well as some of his Beethoven, from this time period. I figured the next logical step was to try his Brahms. Overall, I was a bit disappointed.

I guess part of it is that I can deal with slower Beethoven, at least with the 3rd and 9th(to an extent). But I don't feel that this approach works as well for Brahms, for whatever reason.

There are some good points to this account - the first movement is pulled off fairly well, although a bit too emotive for Brahms' rather restrained compositional style. The second movement, as Hurwitz correctly states (for once!) is agonizingly slow, to the point of sheer tedium. Probably the highlight of the performance is a surprisingly boisterous Scherzo, but once this ends, we are back to a snail-pace in the Finale. All in all, not terrible, but not great either. I'm not a speed-freak in terms of tempo, but at a certain point you need to adhere at least remotely to the composer's markings. For example, if the Finale is marked "allegro energico e passionato - piu allegro", then it should be pretty quick. Here, though, we get allegretto, tops.

In spite of all this, there are some fine moments; the Scherzo as I previously mentioned, and much of the first movement. But another detriment to the recording is the horribly dry early digital sound, which, as another reviewer stated, really sucks the life out of the strings and makes the brass sound exceedingly harsh. Overall, you should buy it if you really love Lenny (I'm so-so on him), especially late Lenny. If you like slow Brahms (but not this slow), try Giulini's 1970 recording with the Chicago Symphony on EMI. It is slow, but more cohesive overall than this account.

But for some more authoritative recent 4th's, look to Abbado, Karajan, or Kleiber.
5.0 von 5 Sternen Impressive and Striking !! 18. Februar 2012
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I purchased this treasure years ago back in the 80's, when it had a different cover, it was my first Deutsche Gramaphone recording (I was comparing it to Telarc digital recordings and found it just as impressive).

The first movement is forever with me. I think about it as much as any other piece of classical music that may enter and linger in my mind from time to time. The music flows twisting in its emotions and swirling concord, dancing like ghosts with changing disposition. Playful, sweet, and purposeful are the plucked strings changing into crescendoing brass then booming percussion. This weatherlike music flutters and shutters with full exuberant reverberations.

Awesome is this Symphony!! Purchase it without any doubt if not for the 1st movement alone !! BUY IT !! NOW !!! Think of the "Tragic Overture" as an added bonus !!
Great job Bernstein !!!!

Good day friends !
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4.0 von 5 Sternen I wonderful recording, warts and all. 11. Dezember 2001
Von Mark Decker - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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This live performance is a really strong one. Yes, Bernstein's tempi (particularly in the last movement) are sometimes agonizingly slow, but he keeps it all together. Some might quibble with his slowing-down-in-order-to-speed-up approach, but it certainly creates dramatic tension and excitement. The jubilant third movement is one of the best moments. I only wish the strings sounded stronger, as they are often outdone by the brass. The coda of the fourth movement is exhilerating, and hearing Lenny's grunts in the background is a real treat. The orchestra isn't as clear as it could be, but what it lacks in clarity it makes up for with robustness of sound and pure grandeur. The biggest disappointment is the second movement, where the beautiful string climax near the beginning doesn't quite come off. Otherwise, this is a real treat that only tempo-fascists would hate!
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