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Vi IMproved, Vim (Landmark (New Riders)) (Englisch) Taschenbuch – Dezember 2000

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For students looking to streamline their use of and development on the Linux OS, the Vi editor will be part of their toolset. An improved version of Vi, VIM (Vi iMproved) is now shipping with every major Linux distribution. VIM is a definitive, concise reference to the vi editor and takes a task oriented approach allowing students to learn only the commands that make your tasks easier.

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Real Linux users don't use GUIs. No matter how popular, slick and sophisticated the interfaces become for Linux and UNIX, you'll always need to be able to navigate in a text editor. The vi editor is the original standard UNIX full screen editor. It's been around almost since UNIX began and it has changed very little. To get around the limitations of vi the people at Bram Moolenaar created the vim editor (the name stand for VI iMproved). It contains many more features than the old vi editor including: help, multiple windows, syntax highlighting, programmer support, and HTML support. All of the books published to date focus on vi alone not the expanded vim shipping with every major Linux distribution. In true New Riders' form, the vim reference will be a definitive, concise reference for the professional Linux user and developer. This tutorial takes a task oriented approach allowing you to learn only the commands that make your job easier.

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Von Ein Kunde am 15. Oktober 2001
Format: Taschenbuch
Der Autor dieser Zeilen hat den VIM ab Version 2.0 kennen und schätzen gelernt und verwendet ihn auf mehreren Plattformen. Dabei war es immer ein Problem, die vielen Features des Editors an Hand der Dokumentation zu erschließen. Dieses Buch hat diesem Manko definitiv Abhilfe geschaffen.
Das Buch behandelt Version 5.7 des Vi IMproved und ist in drei große Abschnitte unterteilt: "The Tutorial", "The Details", "Appendixes" Im Tutorial werden - mit den ersten Schritten Cursor-Bewegung, einfache Editier-Kommandos) angefangen bis hin zu mächtigeren Kommandos (Windows, Visual Mode) - die Grundlagen erklärt. VIM-Neulinge sollten diese Kapitel streng sequentiell durcharbeiten. Fortgeschrittene Nutzer können am Anfang einige Kapitel überspringen, finden aber sicher in den Kapiteln des zweiten Teils viele Anregungen und Kommandos, die ihnen bis dahin unbekannt waren (zumindest ging es mir so). Die Beschreibung ist in einfachem Englisch gehalten, der ich selbst mit meinen bescheidenen Englisch-Kenntnissen gut folgen konnte. Viele Abbildungen erläutern und illustrieren den Text, was ich als Vorteil gegenüber der Dokumentation empfunden habe. Der dritte Teil enthält eine komplette Befehls-Referenz zum VIM, die sehr gut zum Nachschlagen geeignet ist. Das Buch behandelt (fast) alle Features des VIM in aller Ausführlichkeit. Nicht behandelt werden Themen wie z. Bsp.: Editieren in Chinesisch oder Hebräisch (Kap.: 17). Für alle offenen Fragen gibt es die einschlägigen Mailing-Listen im Internet.
Zum Abschluß noch einige kritische Bemerkungen zum Buch, die man allerdings z.T. relativieren muß: Da wäre zum einen der hohe Preis. Allerdings gehen a.
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3.0 von 5 Sternen Does anyone actually read the books they review??? 23. Juli 2001
Von David DelGreco - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
Format: Taschenbuch
I decided to learn Vim because I work on WinNT/2K, Linux, and Macintosh boxes. Using a single editor makes it easier to work on mulitple platforms.
My review of this book is mixed. First, it's the only book on Vim and it contains a lot of information, so that's a plus. Also, it shed a lot of light on using the editor that, frankly, the help files did not (you can look up *ANYTHING* via ":help <topic>", but the documentation is not very accessible to the new user). However, the typos, errors, bad grammar, and personal idiosyncracies of Mr. Oualline just have to be seen to be believed.
You can figure out most of the errors easily enough. For example, there's a reference to the non-BUI version of Vim (I think he meant GUI)and for some reason, in the word "filename", when used as an example (e.g., "type 'vim filename'"), the "fi" is sans-serif while the rest of the example text is in bold Courier. There are, however, numerous places where the diagrams don't match the example being discussed in the text or are just plain wrong. Some of these left me wondering if I had missed something, but trying out a command in Vim quickly showed the diagram was wrong. My favorite goof is where '#' (the command to search backwards for the word under the cursor) is shown in numerous places in Appendix C (pp. 445, 449, and elsewhere) as a British money sign (e.g., "/count/ L"), where L is the pound sign. Get it? Pound sign? Obviously the person who did the Appendices and Index (and copy-editing???) was not Mr. Oualline.
With regard to the content, I found that Mr. Oualline is very idiosyncratic. Vim is VERY flexible, using ancient Vi ways of doing things, as well as more modern ways that are easier to use. Take yanking (copying) a block of text to a register (like the clipboard). *Mouse way*: select lines, press y. *Visual way*: move cursor to top of lines to be selected, press V, select lines, press y. *Vi-ish way*: go to top of lines to be selected, press "ma" to drop a mark labeled "a", go to bottom of lines, type y'a (yank from current position to mark "a").
If you consider these different styles (mouse, visual, or Vi-ish) to approaching the same general problem, Mr. Oualline always goes with the Vi-ish style, to the point of also showing you in many cases how to precede the command with a line range instead of using marks. Where Ctrl-Wn (open a new window) will do, we get Ctrl-W Ctrl-N (equivalent). Where Ctrl-W<down> moves down one window, we get Ctrl-W Ctrl-J (the arrows aren't mentioned). My guess is that this is not how the majority of new users will use Vim (though it might be handy if you find yourself using Vi or Vim via telnet).
A real barrier to learning the editor is the immense number of variations for accomplishing a given task. Multiple keystrokes to accomplish the same thing, as well as different approaches. What would be great for Vim is an attempt to break down tasks into functional groupings (movement, formatting, programmer stuff, managing buffers/windows) and choose a style (probably visual mode, which is almost interchangeable with mouseing) so you can say "here's a good way to get started." The many variations can be left as an excercise for power users. They are available in the online help, anyway.
All in all, I learned a lot about Vim from this book. But if I hadn't been determined to do so, I would have given up. If you want to learn Vim and the online docs aren't doing it for you, buy this book. You've been warned, so just chuckle when you come across errors and general weirdness. Kudos to Mr. Oualline for writing a book, but don't give up your day job. :-) BIG raspberries to New Riders for letting this slip through without proper editing. And thanks to Bram, who put up an unofficial list of errata at [...]
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1.0 von 5 Sternen Too confusing and too many errors 19. Mai 2001
Von James Snyder - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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So far I have only read up to page 118. The large number of errors I have found so far is mind-numbing. I pity the poor beginner who has to plow through these mistakes in order to try to understand the vim program. For those who already have a copy, I ask you to compare figures 2.4 and 2.5 and tell me what is the difference between the two sets of arrows. Look at figure 2.13 and find the two outright errors, the inconsistency, and the point that might be confusing to a beginner. Read the section entitled 'How to Change Last, First to First, Last' on pages 103 and 104 and find the following:
1. The \(, \), \1, and \2 used here will not be introduced until page 213.
2. The regular expression in figure 9.2 is labeled a 'command', while the command itself is found nowhere.
3. The dollar sign in the regular expression is redundant.
4. The [^,]* could be replaced with the simpler .* unless you anticipate that there would be more than one comma on a line, in which case, any command would fail.
5. The space after the comma in the names file is not properly accounted for.
6. Who changes last, first to first, last anyway? It should be changed to first last, with no comma.
This nonsense appears just after the author has introduced the :substitute command. Take a breath Mr. Oualline, and teach the basics first.

These are not isolated problems, the whole book is like this.
My opinion is that:
1. Mr. Oualline has too much experience with vim to remember the needs of a beginner.
2. The artist who created the figures seems to have no experience with vim whatever.
3. The review process at New Riders is too careless.
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3.0 von 5 Sternen Stiff 17. Oktober 2006
Von B. Ambrosius - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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I agree with David DelGreco. My review is mixed because a lot is covered and well explained, but the information is dispersed all over the place and sometimes plain wrong. It would be good to see sections for the *mouse way*, *visual way* and *Vi-ish way* from the start.

I have two criticisms that I have not read in the other reviews that makes my opinion rather negative. First and foremost, the book is STIFF. A tutorial book should remain open on the page without having to put your hand on it. I'm having it beside me now, and the only page that is willing to remain open is the title page. Even thumbing to the index is a chore. It's like paging through a carton book for 2-year olds. I have a grandchild now, so I know how it feels. It makes the book almost unusable.

My second criticism is the chosen font. You can hardly see the difference between uppercase and lowercase, and that is rather important. I've had several times wondering why a command didn't work because of this.

And why are 'vimrc' and 'configuration file' not in the index? I still have to find them somewhere in the book. I gave up and looked up on the internet how to set the colorscheme in vimrc (it's ":colorscheme desert" b.t.w.)

So a lot of it is good and it has some really bad points. Mixed feelings...
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4.0 von 5 Sternen Don't like the long command name 29. August 2002
Von C. L. - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
Format: Taschenbuch
One main reason people use vi/vim is that by using few key strokes you can do your editing job. In this book, author choose to teach you how to do things using the longest command available. For example, :split instead of :sp; :buffer instead of :b ...
It will be nice if author at least mentioned the alternative.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen It's the User Manual 3. September 2013
Von Scott Bicknell - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
Format: Taschenbuch
First, I have to say that this is the book I used to learn Vim. That was more than five year ago. When it came out, it was the only book that covered Vim exclusively, and it contained many typographical errors. I cannot say anything about recent copies of the book.

If you don't mind reading PDF files, this book is available free of charge as a PDF file. It is licensed under the Open Publication License, so this is legal.

However, the book's content is so good that it was adopted and adapted to become Vim's user manual. That's right, every copy of Vim includes a copy of this book with it. Vim's documentation consists of this book as the user manual in addition to its exhaustive reference manual.

The user manual does not have the typographical errors that have been reported for the published version of the book, and it is updated as needed. The catch is that you must learn to use Vim's help system to use it effectively.

For a more comfortable reading experience with the user manual, start Vim and type:

:help usr_toc

A new window will open within Vim displaying the first page of the user manual. Then type:

:only

This closes all other Vim windows and displays only the help window. To navigate through the manual, move the cursor to a topic link and press ctrl-]. To return from a visited topic press ctrl-o. The manual provides a great self-paced and extensive tutorial on Vim.

For those new to Vim and who have never used a modal editor before, you should evaluate whether Vim is the right editor for you. If you are not a touch-typist, Vim may not be right for you unless you are willing to learn touch typing first.

Touch typists gain speed by learning the tactile feel of words as they type them rather than memorizing the positions of the keys and reciting the spelling of words in their heads as they type. A common mistake when learning Vim is to memorize the commands and try to recall them. The correct way to learn Vim is to get a tactile feel for the commands as you touch type them rather than to memorize their letter combinations. As you learn, make a short cheat sheet of a few commands to use as a quick reminder, but pay attention to the tactile feel as you type them so that you burn the memory of typing the command rather than the command's keys, and repeat the command until it begins to feel like a habit.

Vim's commands follow a syntax similar to natural language. There are verbs and nouns. Verbs act upon nouns. For instance, if d is the delete command (it is) and w is the word command (it is), then dw deletes forward one word. 3dw and d3w both delete three words. The first form deletes one word three times. The second form deletes three words one time. They are functionally equivalent. d is the verb and w is the noun. w is also known as a movement command, because it has the effect of moving the cursor. Movement commands can be used for navigation as well as editing.

If you focus your efforts on learning the functions you use most often in your current editor, you will become productive in Vim in a very short time. When you find yourself inappropriately typing Vim commands inside your word processor and start looking for ways to modify other programs to use Vim commands, your conversion will be complete.
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