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The Histories (World Classics) (Englisch) Taschenbuch – 11. November 2010

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"This new translation of Polybius will be a valuable resource for teachers and students of Polybius and Roman history. The authors deserve no small praise for permitting one of the most highly regarded ancient historians, yet also one of the least read, speak to a new generation."-Bryn Mawr Classical Review





"This new translation of Polybius will be a valuable resource for teachers and students of Polybius and Roman history. The authors deserve no small praise for permitting one of the most highly regarded ancient historians, yet also one of the least read, speak to a new generation."-Bryn Mawr Classical Review


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Robin Waterfield is an author and translator. His many acclaimed translations for OWC include Plato's Republic and five other Plato translations, Plutarch, Herodotus, Aristotle, Xenophon and Euripides. Brian McGing has written articles on the Hellenistic period and recently completed a book on Polybius. He is Regius Professor of Greek at Trinity College Dublin.

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5.0 von 5 Sternen Thank you Robin Waterfield 18. Februar 2013
Von Keith R. Ghormley - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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1) This is very "easy reading" for ancient history. Part of the credit for that belongs to Polybius, who knows how to narrate. And part of the credit goes to Waterfield, who has done a good job of bridging the language gap. I remember reading in the preface something about his decision, for example, to break long sentences into shorter multiple sentences. Modern readers, after all, can't hold their breath at all as they wait for the period.

2) Waterfield's efforts to speak in modern idiomatic English also result in some troubling choices for a work of ancient history. For example, in one place Polybius is complaining about the way Fabius (another historian) has been less than completely reliable:
"In my opinion, however, readers can safely assume that Fabius is reliable more often than not, but they should not regard what he says as gospel; rather, they should base their conclusions on the facts themselves."
(Polybius (2010-11-11). The Histories (Oxford World's Classics) (p. 138). Oxford University Press. Kindle Edition.)

Uhm, did Polybius, writing in 150 B.C. tell his readers not to regard what Fabius writes "as gospel"? Okay, that communicates in modern English, but it is confusing historically.

3) On the other hand, Waterfield makes some excellent choices, too, as when Polybius suspends his account of the Hannibalic war to resume his account of the wars in Greece. At the edge of that theatre was a clash between the Rhodians (Rhodies?) and Byzantines. He describes the grudge carried in the heart of Prusias, one of the leaders of Rhodes:
"One of Prusias’ old grievances against the Byzantines was that they had failed to erect some statues of him; they had voted to do so, but then they had just let the matter slide and forgotten all about it. He also did not like the fact that they had done all they could to try to end the war between Achaeus and Attalus and reconcile them to each other; in his view, warm relations between Achaeus and Attalus would harm his interests in a number of ways. And he felt insulted by the Byzantines’ failure to send emissaries to him for his Soteria,* when apparently Attalus had received such a delegation from Byzantium for his games in honour of Athena." Polybius (2010-11-11). The Histories (Oxford World's Classics) (p. 263). Oxford University Press. Kindle Edition.

Uh, zowie, what? No emissaries sent for the Soteria? The footnote for "Soteria" tells us
"Soteria: a festival instituted in cities all over the Hellenistic world in thanks for deliverance from danger. The occasion and the details of Prusias’ festival are unknown." Polybius (2010-11-11). The Histories (Oxford World's Classics) (p. 466). Oxford University Press. Kindle Edition.

THANK YOU Robin Waterfield for leaving us the actual Greek word Soteria there instead of trying to translate it as "Freedom Festival" or "Deliverance Days" or something. Because this gives us a new depth of context for "Soteria" as it is used in the Bible, where it is everywhere and always translated "Salvation." For he says, "In a favorable time I listened to you, and in a day of salvation I have helped you." Behold, now is the favorable time; behold, now is the day of salvation. 2 Cor. 6:2 (ESV) We would miss the possibility of making that connection in a poorer translation.
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4.0 von 5 Sternen Thorough and accurate 1. März 2011
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Waterfield is truly a master of translation. The notes, as usual for OWC, are in depth and fill in the blanks. As for Polybius himself, it is a wonderful masterpiece. One of the first "universal" historians, Polybius covers the known world during the Punic wars, and the Social wars. It is a very insightful view of the times. Plus, it is where we draw a lot of our Roman military knowledge. Polybius was a hands on historian, having fought in wars, and been in the ranks of politicians. I highly recommend reading this if you are a fan of ancient history. I would also highly recommend all that Robin Waterfield has translated, and noted.
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4.0 von 5 Sternen A rare instance where the Penguin has more! 18. Februar 2013
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Excellent translation (RW) and introduction (BM)...but doesn't include the fragments of later books as in the old Penguin edition. I generally love the high quality of these OWC editions, but in this rare instance I find myself supplementing with the Penguin.
5.0 von 5 Sternen A fascinating author 5. August 2013
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Polybius gives us the intelligence and analytical skills of an ancient Greek who follows Alexander as well as chunks of Roman history with sense and substance. His analysis of political orders and constitutions should be required reading for every human being.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Interesting History 16. Mai 2014
Von Media Ac SFS Brigid E. Duffy - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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Seems like a good translation, lively and easy to follow. Don't forget to read the footnotes in the back of the book.
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