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Across Atlantic Ice (Englisch) Gebundene Ausgabe – 17. Februar 2012

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"Stanford and Bradley weave a fascinating narrative... [The authors] deftly illustrate their expertise." -- Christopher R. Moore, University of South Carolina Southeastern Archaeology 20130122 "This scientific treatise ... shines between the lines." -- Philip Kopper The Washington Times 20120427 "A thorough job... Stanford and Bradley compile an impressive dossier of evidence... It should be taken seriously." -- Atholl Anderson, Australian National University, Canberra Int'l Jrnl Nautical Achaeology 20130216


"Across Atlantic Ice is brilliant and ground-breaking. As fascinating as it is controversial, this book brings together decades of research from diverse areas into a single volume that is well argued, factually rich, elegantly written--and absolutely riveting. I could not put it down." Douglas Preston, author of Cities of Gold, Thunderhead, and former archaeology correspondent for The New Yorker magazine

In their well-written and well-reasoned exploration of the first inhabitants of the Americas, Dennis Stanford and Bruce Bradley have provided a viable alternative scenario. I am not a trained professional, but I have been reading the archeological literature for thirty-five years. Their argument is logical and should be given an open-minded hearing. Jean M. Auel, author of The Land of Painted Caves and The Clan of the Cave Bear
This carefully crafted, well-researched book aims to change our thinking of who the first Americans were and where they came from. Stanford and Bradley have produced an ambitious, interdisciplinary study of a neglected route of early entry into the Americas that will affect the way the larger narrative of the first chapter of human history in the New World is written. Tom D. Dillehay, author of The Settlement of the Americas: A New Prehistory

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Ausgelöst durch eine Fernsehsendung mit dem gleichen Thema habe ich nach Literatur gesucht und bin fündig geworden. Erstklassig recherchiert, auch für den nichtmuttersprachlichen Englischleser verständlich, und spannender als mancher Krimi im Privatfernsehen.
Kann nicht nur Interesse wecken, sondern auch für einen Primaner als Hilfe dienen, an seinem Englisch zu feilen.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen A must read if one wants to know of cultures in America older than Clovis some 13,000 BP 14. November 2015
Von Paul Bell - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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A must read if one wants a modern review of the strong evidence supporting one of several migrations to the Americas older than the Clovis culture, some 13,000 years before present (BP). A migration, which may be ancestral to Clovis, came from the Solutrean culture in Southwest France and Northern Spain during the last ice age at about 17,000 BP, some 4,000 years before Clovis culture started.
After learning of the older than Clovis sites of Monte Verde in Chile from a lecture by Tom Dillehay, and visiting Paisley Caves in Oregon with Dennis Jenkins, I learned of the Gault and Friedkin sites along Buttermilk Creek some 40 miles North of Austin, Texas. On requesting a tour of the Gault site, Michael Collins, who wrote the Forward to Across Atlantic Ice, gave my wife and I a tour. After asking how we could learn more, Mike recommended reading Across Atlantic Ice.
On reading Across Atlantic Ice, I learned, not only of the compelling evidence that the Solutrean culture could have been the precursor to the Clovis culture, but that there were many other older than Clovis sites to visit in the United States. With Mike’s introductions, my wife and I visited:
• Topper at over 15,000 BP [Paleo Origins p 110] in South Carolina with Albert Goodyear;
• sites near Cactus Hill at 17,000 to 18,000 BP in Virginia with Michael Johnson;
• laurel leaf blades like the Cinmar blade at possibly 22,000 BP [AAI p 183] and Miles Point at 17,000 BP [AAI p 183] in the Delmarva area on the Chesapeake Bay, Maryland with Darrin Lowery; and
• Meadowcroft Rockshelter perhaps 16,000 BP Southwest of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania with James Adovasio.
Having read Across Atlantic Ice, I was able to look at the artifacts found at each site and appreciate whether they were related closely or not to their subsequent Clovis culture.
Having read Across Atlantic Ice and visiting these sites, I appreciated the considerable ongoing effort by many specialists to bring coherence to this disjointed array of evidence.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen The Iberian Connection: 18. Dezember 2014
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It wasn't long after the discovery of the "New World" that men of science began wondering about the regions indigenous people. Had they always been here or had they migrated from other lands to settle in North America? The obvious choice was that family groups of Ice Age hunter-gatherers had walked over a land bridge from Siberia to Alaska about 13,000 years ago. From there our intrepid "Paleo-Indians" had followed a southerly route till they came to the fertile plains and forests of a new land just south of the ice-sheet. Game animals were abundant and there was lots of room for our travelers spread out and prosper. And spread out they did, from coast to coast and southward too, to yet another continent. While doing all this prospering, they took time out to invent the Clovis Point and to hunt the Ice Age Mega-Fauna to extinction. The rest, they say, is history. Or is it? For the most part, this scenario was accepted as "Gospel" by the Archeological community but early on, almost from the beginning, dissenting voices were heard. Throughout North and South America some Paleolithic sites were being dated as older than the 13,000 YBP mark, some as far back as 20,000 to 30,000 YBP. There may be more to this story after all. In "Across Atlantic Ice" authors Dennis J Stanford and Bruce A Bradley fill you in on a different hypothesis on how and when the first Americans may have gotten here. Is it possible that Ice Age Mariners had migrated west, along the edge of the ice floe, from somewhere in Europe, more specifically, the Iberian Peninsula? To reach this conclusion the authors have spent years studying and analyzing lithic and bone artifacts from sites in North America, from Alaska to Florida, searching for a time line tracing the development of the Clovis Culture. Traditionally Clovis was thought to have its roots in Siberia but was not fully developed until it's Ice Age inventors had crossed the Beringia Land Bridge and reached the southern plains of North America. Stanford and Bradley's research has led them to believe the opposite; Clovis was first developed along the "eastern" seaboard of Paleo-America and may have had its roots in and around the the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France and Northern Spain. To explain their paradigm changing idea the authors start with a kind of Primer for making and analyzing stone tools that I found to be rather technical and kind of a tough read. But this Primer came in handy when it was time to compare the Clovis Culture, in the U.S., to the Solutrean Culture in Iberia. The second half of the book covers the authors's hypothesis and their interpretation of the data available. On the whole this is a well written and informative book that gave me plenty of "food for thought". Looks to me like we have three possibilities here: One: ice Age Mariners followed Atlantic currents along the sea-ice edge to colonize North America far earlier than previously suspected. Two: a similar idea proposes that other Paleolithic Mariners from South East Asia/Siberia followed the ice front of the North Pacific to eventually settle on the western seaboard of the Americas, well before 13,000 YBP. Three: then there's our heroic Mammoth Hunters crossing the Beringia Land Bridge and ending up in an "American Serengeti". To me a combination of the three makes sense, with far ranging travelers reaching North America in wave after wave, all from different sources. (*) This book was perfect for me and if you're at all interested in Natural History and how humans first came to North America then it may be a good fit for you too. I highly recommend it. I had no technical or formatting problems with this Kindle edition.

(*) For more on this interesting subject see Tom Koppel's "Lost World" and "The First Americans" by J.M. Adovasio.

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4.0 von 5 Sternen Solutreans Made It to North America 30. November 2012
Von Al Sundel - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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The Stanford-Bradley Theory argues too timidly for a smacking-good idea that makes much common sense. Estimates of 1492 Indian population of the New World is estimated in the 10-20 million range. For long, their assumed single route of entry was the Bering Strait during the Ice Age. Little evidence to date supports a land-bridge theory for any heavy crossing. The authors spend too much time going over the sparse amount of Beringian finds. Most came by water, and fairly late. Some managed it earlier.

Art and skull evidence for late Pacific crossings is clearer, mainly within the last few thousand years. More obvious, Pacific West Coast Indians were more Asiatic-traited; East Coast, more European-traited.

The leading artifacts found are the unique Clovis, NM spearheads, exquisitely knapped to create a multi-faceted surface useless in a big-game hunting. They have now been found, of earlier date, along the U S Eastern Coast. They resemble those introduced in Paleolithic Europe c 18,000 BC by the Solutrean Paleolithic culture. The American Clovis points run from a somewhat later period down to c 12,000 BC. Does this mean late Solutreans crossed the Atlantic during the Ice Age?

The Stanford-Bradley Theory suggests so. They assemble available evidence, such as recent ice-bore climate-change periods. In very cold Ice Age winters, an ice sheet virtually connected France and the UK to Newfoundland. In rare very warm brief summers, cod-fish hunters could have accidentally found their way, by foot or sea, to the cod-rich Grand Banks. Let alone, the North Atlantic current could reverse and, in summer, float huge pieces of land broken off from frozen Europe to the Grand Banks with groups of late Solutreans accidentally aboard.

This is a cautious presentation of the theory. But why the multi-faceted spearheads that resemble huge cut diamonds? Found near small game. Those facets could catch the spare amount of sunlight peeking through the Ice Age overcast skies and may have been used as a combination clock-compass. The Alpine Solutreans received more light than coastal land did. They had to journey far over Alpine ice to find small game: mountain goats, hare, wolves, birds, lake fish, etc. When food ran low, they descended to the Bay of Biscay. They became fishermen, chasing seal, auk and cold-water fish. Perhaps. We may never know. But in historic times, white Indians lived in Newfoundland. The Beotuk. They surely came by sea. But at a later date. They simply followed the trail of the tasty cod floating to Europe. The theory is highly plausible; the presentation not as strong as it could have been. But it's the only book of its kind.

Al Sundel
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Ground breaking revelations of who were the 1st Americians 5. Juni 2014
Von Charles W Day - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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Theory that the 1st Americans came via the Bering Straight approximately 12000 BC has been challenged by recent analysis that they came approximately 22000 BC from Europe when there was a period when the Atlantic Ocean north of Spain was a glacier that extended from the northern Iberian peninsula to Newfoundland and the Gulf of St. Lawrence.
Dennis Stanford, chief archeologist of the Smithsonian, has spend his career tracing the origin of the Clovis flint spear head found in sites stretching from the Mid Atlantic to Clovis NM back to the Iberian peninsular to the people of northern Spain and Southern France known as the Solutrean culture. This culture has left behind significant sites as to the technology of the Clovis spear head and is identical to those found in America. With game as a source of necessary protein, these people took to the sea in skin boats much the same ways Eskimos hunt and were able to secure plentiful sources of protein from seals and fish that were in abundance at the edge of the gigantic glacier that existed and extended across the northern Atlantic ocean. The discovery of the Cactus Hill site in Virginia is what helped Dr. Stanford peruse his research. His research has concluded that this technology did not exist in Asia nor have similar sights been found in the Northwest regions of North America and thus pursed his investigation that the first Americans may have come from the Solutrean Culture of Northern Iberia.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen The theory is still being formulated 2. Januar 2014
Von Brian Button - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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I am a bit of a traditionalist and am suspicious of contrarians. However, Across Atlantic Ice, upset my thinking about early Americans without every triggering my resistance to new theories.

I was taught that humans arrived in America over the Bering Straits. Since that time, numerous data points (human DNA, dog DNA, glacier movements) have supported that. When I bought the book, I must have failed to notice "Atlantic" in the title. I thought it was about the Bering Straits journey. Whoops!

Instead, the author makes an compelling argument that some early Americans came from Europe. True, we have not found any DNA clue to indicate that. On further reflection, that does not necessarily destroy this theory. Maybe they died out or we did not look hard enough.

On the positive side, Mr. Stanford has several things going for his theory. The location and timing of Clovis settlements imply eastern origins. The big one is that the Solutrean Tool culture in Europe is an obvious predecessor for Clovis. There is no evidence of a tool culture in Asia which might have evolved into Clovis.

The challenge in this book, well met, it to help us (me) understand why styles of tool building are strong evidence of culture. Let's just say that there is all the detail needed to convince me that stone tool styles evolve from predecessors. The link between Solutrean and Clovis cultures is strong. And it is unexplained by a Bering Straits immigration.

Someone once said, "a theory should be as simple as possible to fit the facts. But no simpler." This is a situation where the facts may call for a more complex theory.

I enjoyed learning about the "technology" of making stone tools. I enjoyed having the feeling that I could observe the "soup being made" in the kitchen of human pre-historical studies. I look forward to watching this argument unfold.
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