5.0 von 5 Sternen Technical but human
I stumbled over this book in the public library and was I lucky. This is only the second good book I've read about the IT profession; the other being "The Soul of a New Machine" by Tracy Kidder.
I expected a standard, hype filled book about web design. What I got was less about designing beautiful web screens and much more about designing beautiful...
Veröffentlicht am 23. Juli 2000 von Terry Kearns
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2.0 von 5 Sternen Bad design, amateur photos, bloated book
Usability is a valued function in print, not just on the web. Phil and Alex's way cool in-joke laden guide could be edited down by 30% without any loss in content, printed on non-gloss paper to save 30-=50% more in unneeded weight. Greenspun abuses print the way the web novices he critiques use the web--utterly superfluous production values that add no value to the...
Veröffentlicht am 29. Juni 2000 von Cato Sapiens
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2.0 von 5 Sternen Bad design, amateur photos, bloated book,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)Usability is a valued function in print, not just on the web. Phil and Alex's way cool in-joke laden guide could be edited down by 30% without any loss in content, printed on non-gloss paper to save 30-=50% more in unneeded weight. Greenspun abuses print the way the web novices he critiques use the web--utterly superfluous production values that add no value to the user but only heap on costs and hence price; utterly gratuitous graphics which prove that force me, the book buyer, to subsidize Greenspun's embarrassingly mediocre talent as a photographer, and utter inability to generate creative or useful graphic illustrations to help communicate the rich and bountiful insights that pour forth from his fertile mind. Do not attempt to use this book if you suffer from any form of RSI... it's as though the author has intentionally created a 25 pound laptop and every programmer in the world is forced to fall over in adulation. Aparently, Mr. Greenspun did not have the opportunity to go through the 2-3 year stage of amateur dabbling in desktop graphics most of us went through with Photoshop 2.0 . What is ludicrous is that even our most eminent thinker about "information design" dares not to mention that this book is an insult to the art and craft of information design in print. Excess weight causes severe spine breakage, the absurdly wasteful use of high gloss paper means that the pages resist being underlined or marked for those who want to create notation, and the photos are as distracting and counterproductive as 100 one megabyte jpegs of baboons would be pushed into every page of my online edition of the New York Times. The varnished paper is, of course, non-recyclable. Philip, the design of your book violates every single rule you hammer away at for 570 pages. Keep the dog, hire an editor, drop the ego, practice in print what you preach on the web. Read Ed Tufte's books and make the next edition actually use graphic presentation to communicate. Respect print, it's older than you are.
5.0 von 5 Sternen Technical but human,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)I stumbled over this book in the public library and was I lucky. This is only the second good book I've read about the IT profession; the other being "The Soul of a New Machine" by Tracy Kidder.
I expected a standard, hype filled book about web design. What I got was less about designing beautiful web screens and much more about designing beautiful computer systems. We learn that fundamentals of good system design haven't changed in 30 years and probably will not change in the next 30. Philip's creed is, "design a great system, then send it to a design professional."
Along the way we get some history of computer science and the Internet. We get case studies. We get actual computer code. We get good advice for both technical and non-technical folks. But, best of all, we get an author with an attitude, with experience, with opinions.
What sets this apart from every other technical book is that it seems like there is a real human in there. Reading it is more like a conversation with a real person than a lecture on information technology.
5.0 von 5 Sternen philg is god, and his book is great,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)phillip's book is funny, easy to read, and insightful. it delivers superior technical advice and philosophy on web publishing, and I'm surprised that the whole world isn't buying this book by the truckload.
advice: buy it, whether you're an idiot or a genius.
5.0 von 5 Sternen The best book that puts it all together,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)I'm indebted to this book, because I badly needed one, single, book which covered this wide area of Websites, good design, usability, back-end technology, and a whole lot else. This is the only book I know that fits the bill.
The author's writing style is unusual. The book reads like a lecture rather than a book. It is conversational, and the prose therefore is a little less tightly structured and focused than most classic texts I've read. The author chooses to digress into his pet peeves every now and then, but his peeves make interesting reading.
If you are expecting a "great" book, with a style similar to the Unix classics, e.g. Kernighan and Ritchie's book on C, then you won't get it here. But Greenspun's style is perhaps more appropriate for the unstructured and extensive subject area he attempts to cover. He covers Websites to begin with, and what makes Websites usable. He then moves on to interactive Websites and the technologies behind them. Finally, he covers implementation details, including database systems, scripting languages, and all sorts of other hands-on areas.
One impression that I came away with is that Greenspun is a good engineer. His sense of good engineering elegance is extremely rare, and this sense is visible all through the book. I agree with his choices of technology, and in particular, his reasons for choosing them. An unusual choice is his preference for Tcl as a scripting language over Perl. I feel that his book would have allowed more readers to relate to his examples if he had used Perl, which I suspect is more popular than Tcl, at least in the Web scripting world. Similarly, his choice of AOLServer + Tcl leaves one wishing that he had covered Apache + mod_perl in as much depth.
His coverage of issues like rationale behind choosing one DBMS over another, is really rare. I wouldn't say his treatment is systematic or exhaustive, but no other book I have read even attempts to address these issues from the practitioner's viewpoint the way he does. And the descriptions of his experiences with Cybercash, server downtime, etc., are superb.
This book is in a class by itself. Having handled Web application development since 1995, I felt I had found a kindred soul.
I am using this book as required reading for a course on Web Technology for Information Management majors, which I teach, in a management institute in Bombay. I will also make it required reading in the software development firm which I manage... especially for the managers. :)
4.0 von 5 Sternen Philip comes clean,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)Most technical books cover their topic in detail but fail to provide a proper context, to explain how it fits in the larger picture. Philip covers the menusha of web publishing from graphics processing to building database driven websites in a conversational style that makes it easy to see how all the pieces fit together. I don't understand the coffee table format (the photos are random) but it's not distracting either. Chock full of good, practical advice that is hard to find anywhere else.
3.0 von 5 Sternen Good book despite rants,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)An excellent book for getting started with all aspects of web publishing and setting up web sites. The author takes a relatively dry topic and maakes it very entertaining. This book is geared towards the relative novice and if you have even moderate experience in this, the book tends to drag at times.
One major caveat, the author has very strong feelings and states many opinions as if they were facts. Take EVERYTHING that he says with a grain of salt. There are many things that he says that I don't agree with (are wrong!) and after he rants on about them for pages and pages, even I begin to doubt myself.
5.0 von 5 Sternen DamnThisIsAGoodBookAboutWebPublishing,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)...I made quick work of reading it cover to cover over easterweekend. Saying "I couldn't put it down" is a cliche for afiction book -- but almost unheard of for a non-fiction, technicalbook such as this.
What makes this book so damn good is the author (Duh!). He doesn't drone on endlessly about the nuts and bolts of web publishing. Instead, he covers the things that you will never find in ANY other web publishing book on this earth: How to make your web site usable and functional. Previous to reading this book, I'd never have entertained the thought that a programmer could design a decent web site. I was wrong. Greenspun (the author) can make one hell of a good website...
What you will find in this book, which you will find in no other web design book are: 1. how to make a website with an intuitive user interface that won't leave users searching to the "back" button in their browser. 2. how to make scalable web sites that don't take 80 hours a week to maintain. 3. how to add collaboration to your website (ex: user comments, user submitted links) 4. how to lay the foundation for a world class website. 5. how to avoid repeating the mistakes of other web sites.
Read this book as a first course in web design, no matter if you make $100,000 a year doing design, or aspire to make $100,00 in web design.
5.0 von 5 Sternen Simply Superb,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)I received this book as a birthday gift about six months ago and I read it from cover-to-cover within 2 days. Even though the book is 600 pages long, I enjoyed each and every word. Philip Greenspun's wry comments, ironic satire and intelligent prose make for an enjoyable, technical read.
This book is the best that I have come across for designing database-backed websites. Unlike the numerous other books on the topic, this one doesn't dispense with advertising or commerical gimmicks. Dr. Greenspun is strikingly honest and speaks from personal experience -- he has designed and created over 200 database backed websites in his professional career.
This book is invaluable for anyone who is considering construction of a true web service -- in today's world, the power and versatility that a database lends is necessary for a web site's sucess.
Overall, this book is superb and covers the subject definitively.
This is not a book on designing user interfaces to database-backed websites. It focuses on constructing a versatile, reliable and expandable backend that can run your site for many years.
As for web interface design, I like Designing Web Usability: The Practice of Simplicity by Jakob Nielsen. I find myself using these two books in combination to create a nice 1-2 punch :)
5.0 von 5 Sternen Great companion website at photo.net/wtr/thebook,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)I don't have the hardcopy of this book (I read it on the web at photo.net/wtr/thebook/), but maybe I'll go out and buy one. It really is wonderful. Philip has revised some sections of the book on the website, so be sure to check it out.
5.0 von 5 Sternen A Gen-yew-wine book, by a real live person.,
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. (Taschenbuch)Unlike most of the computer press, Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing is a real book written by a stand-up human being, with the inspiration, apparently, of his beloved dog. His opinions are pungent and well informed, his biases out front and expert. A former mathematician and engineer, now a programmer, lecuturer and businessman, Greenspun is a first rate intelligence, not some free-lancer working off his advance from the wide-margin thick-paper computer book publishers. An excellent book for anyone actually working in web publishing. a sound piece of insurance for anybody hiring or buying in the field.
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Philip & Alex's Guide to Web Publishing. von Philip Greenspun (Taschenbuch - 1. Mai 1999)
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