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5.0 von 5 Sternen Male Locker Room Humor about Investment Banking
Before going into my review, let me start with a caution. This book is the grossest, most vulgar business book I have ever read . . . by a very wide margin. This book would have been banned in Boston 50 years ago. If that sort of thing offends you, this book is a minus ten stars. Many women will feel this book is anti-female. On the other hand, if you happen to like your...
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Having had the pleasure of working with investment bankers from several firms recently, this person was looking forward to learning more about what these guys have to go through. Sure, the hours are tough and long, and the perks are even more tremendous than anyone could imagine. But go figure, to succeed in any high powered profession, there is a period of ungodly...
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Male Locker Room Humor about Investment Banking, 18. September 2007
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Rezension bezieht sich auf: Monkey Business: Swinging Through the Wall Street Jungle (Taschenbuch)
Before going into my review, let me start with a caution. This book is the grossest, most vulgar business book I have ever read . . . by a very wide margin. This book would have been banned in Boston 50 years ago. If that sort of thing offends you, this book is a minus ten stars. Many women will feel this book is anti-female. On the other hand, if you happen to like your humor male, bold and brassy, this book will be one of the funniest you will ever read.

As someone who often works with investment bankers, the descriptions about how business is sold and delivered should be tempered a bit. This book describes pretty much every investment banker as shoddy, shallow, and manipulative. That has not been my typical experience. There are terrifically smart, talented, ethical and humane investment bankers. For example, one of my favorites never used a pitch book during his first meeting with a client. Pitch book preparation is one of the banes of the young investment banker's existence. But like all professions, investment bankers vary a lot. There are certainly some less capable ones, and I have seen their work too. I would describe it much like the authors do.

In terms of the working conditions, they are mostly a reflection of weak management in the industry. Investment banks reward doing deals, not being good managers of the deals. A fellow I know became CEO of a major investment bank, and made much less money after that than when he was just a deal-maker. He found little interest on the part of his colleagues in improving management, so it was pretty frustrating. It just doesn't pay to work on making life better for the investment bankers in training, compared to producing more business.

The book's main point is that many young people enter investment banking without knowing what it is like, and are overly impressed with the financial prospects. If your values really favor having time for yourself, your family, and developing your other interests, this is probably the wrong career for you. There are plenty of other ways to make lots of money. The richest people I know are entrepreneurs, not investment bankers.

The book's other main point is that you should take a look at close yourself before you compromise too many of your values. The authors should have never joined an investment bank. Having done so, they should have left much sooner.

CEOs and CFOs should read this book also, to know what to check out carefully in the work that investment bankers do. Most companies now develop their own ideas, and just hire the investment bankers for implementation. In that role, fewer problems will occur of the sort described here. Perhaps the most dangerous role is having an investment banker help you select and pursue an acquisition. Many expensive mistakes follow under those circumstances. Caveat emptor!

You will probably find the monkey drawings in the book add to the humor. The text frequently refers to monkey-see, monkey-do type examples, and the whole story is seen more usefully as a bunch of monkeys playing in a gilded cage. That takes some of the sting out of the gratuitous grossness.

If you liked the put-downs of investment bankers in Liar's Poker, this book will be irresistible to you.

After you have had a good laugh, take a look at your current job and see how well it fits your values and life goals. Chances are that it doesn't. Be prepared to figure that out, and move onward and upward out of whatever gilded (or not-so-gilded) cage you are in today into the freedom of self-actualization.
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2.0 von 5 Sternen The system works fine, 23. Juli 2000
Having had the pleasure of working with investment bankers from several firms recently, this person was looking forward to learning more about what these guys have to go through. Sure, the hours are tough and long, and the perks are even more tremendous than anyone could imagine. But go figure, to succeed in any high powered profession, there is a period of ungodly work hours required, and a true dedication to be successful. Go ask any physician, who has to work harder in the early parts of a career than any banker. The authors prove what anyone who has been through a successful career chase knows, to be able to persevere and be successful at something, you have to enjoy doing what you are doing. The system has a way of weeding out those who are only in it for the money, and it worked fine here. Rolfe and Troob are opposites in many respects, but brought together by a disdain for a career path they had chosen - and chosen only to get rich. Troob on the one hand, decides that life has more to offer than the commitment to a successful career in investment banking would allow. He comes across as decent, bright and able to be successful at lots of things. Misery loves company, and Rolfe is the loser who even after leaving DLJ can't make it in a job. He tells how he got in through good fortune, and appears to detest every thing he was doing. Now let me see, I get a job, but I can't stand the work, and I hate it, therefore the system must be terrible that this career that pays so well isn't fun for me. Jealous of those who are successful in a career where he doesn't belong, he tries to blame the system for creating the scumbag that he is, and take it down with him on his spiral to nowhere. The American dream has warped to the desire to be financially successful without having to pay the price. The instant riches of Lotto drawings and the drive-through McDonalds mentality of financial expectations are alive and well in Rolfe. By writing the trash called Monkey Business and wrapping it in the glamour of Wall Street, Rolfe and Troob give a powerful example of just how easy the warped American Dream can be.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Hillarious, 20. März 2007
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Monkey Business: Swinging Through the Wall Street Jungle (Taschenbuch)
Monkey Business is one of the most fun reads I ever enjoyed. It showcases just the right amount of sarkasm when picturing the newly minted MBAs dream of getting into I-Banking.

Kudos to the authors that did not hide behind generalizations but always used own (very specific) examples when describing experiences they made.

Sometimes the language used is a bit raw, but hey, that's just I-Bankers lingo, isn't it?

This book a good read for anyone thinking about going to a Business School, into Investment Banking. But also everybody else who wants to read a fun story should consider this book.
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3.0 von 5 Sternen see no evil, hear no evil, talk evil, 5. Mai 2000
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required reading for anyone about to embark upon a career into investment banking, but first a caveat emptor: this book lays out the fundamentals about what it's like to be a young hot stud in an armani at a big name wall street firm, and it is basically a factual accounting of the co-authors' experience there, but it tends to veer off into the land of sophomoric hi-jinks and "south park" humor. read it quickly, for the writing is uneven, choppy, unenlightening; in fact, skim it like a "pitch book" or "prospectus" that rookie investment bankers slave over during 100-hour work weeks, and to their disappointment, find their clients--and everyone else-- basically ignoring. bottom line: you can make buckets of money as an investment banker, but forgot about saving your soul in the process. certainly, this book is nowhere near the same caliber as those written by po bronson or michael lewis, but there will be definitely be a market of buyers for monkey business in this topsy turvy economy of ours.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Fantastic!, 24. Juli 2000
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Monkey Business is "the" book to read about Wall Street and the new generation of bankers. I am an I-banker and what Rolfe and Troob say and how they say it is absolutely true and right on the money. The profanity (either by design or not) is perfect because that is the way it is on the Street. The stories are typical of every investment bank and the abuse that junior bankers endure is universal. Basically, bankers no longer have pride in their work, but just do it for the big bucks. I am and at least I know it. Some of my contemporaries think that they are better than that, but they are not. Banking is a meat and potato business and the real brains and entrepreneurship in this country are going into venture capital and the internet. Applause to Rolfe and Troob who are the sages of our day and are smarter than all the guys they left behind.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Will be one of those books that B-schoolers read every year., 25. Juli 2000
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This is one funny book. Monkey Business will still be read by business schoolers and junior Wall Streeters 20 years from now. Many Wall Street books out there lose their timeliness quickly and slip into obscurity, but this one manages to make its point(s) without dating itself. My guess is that it will still be making folks laugh far into the future. Rolfe and Troob have managed to be prescient, as the ugly side of the gold-seeker mentality has come to the fore with the this year's blow-up in the dot com world. Rolfe and Troob made the right decision to follow a different path several years back, and they're now being followed by numerous young professionals who realize that there's more to life than this year's bonus.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Good, 21. Juli 2000
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As an I-banker, some of the things he mentioned are absolutely true. But after reading Liar's poker, it's not as good as expected. His language could have been refined and it could have been a far better book...
Still, well done.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Fantastic fun., 23. Juli 2000
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There aren't many business books that I would characterize as "fun", but Monkey Business has managed to do what few others ever have. This is a book that simultaneously educates, provokes thought, and makes you laugh. I think that it would be easy to view this book as Animal House on Wall Street, but if you scratch beneath the surface you'll find a lot more than that. The authors clearly went through a painful thought process before realizing that there are things out there that are more important than money. View them as spoiled Ivy Leaguers if you want, but do so at your own peril. As junior investment bankers, the games they play and the humiliation they swallow make for some incredibly funny tales. This was a great read.
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2.0 von 5 Sternen A Junk Food Read, For More Nutrition try Liar's Poker, 18. Mai 2000
This book has already been written. Michael Lewis' Liar's Poker is wittier, more intelligent, and gives you more juicy inside information. And he names names, unlike this whining, nervous duo who still earn their keep in the money biz.
The three interesting bits in Monkey Business were: 1) Sitting in on the pitch. 2) How the prospectus is developed. 3) The joke that is due diligence.
These account for ten percent of the book. The other ninety percent meanders about in artless writing, unnecessarily crude language, and endless iterations of the menial paper shuffling that mighty MBA's must stoop to while earning $200K.
Not worth your while. I'm sorry I gave it mine.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Great insight report about Wall Street, 4. Februar 2003
Rezension bezieht sich auf: Monkey Business: Swinging Through the Wall Street Jungle (Taschenbuch)
It is amazing to see how investment bankers work. They make and move a lot of money, but only if you are on the top. The foot soldiers have a very hard life down at hierarchy. Long working hours, stupid work and bad atmosphere. And you come to realize thta they spend 50 % of their time getting the ok for a project which will never be realized. And you learn why the most important parts of any Wall Street company are the Word processing unit and the copy shop.
At the end you realize that working for an investment bank is not the best idea of your life, you definitely deserve more than that.
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