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Until the Fires Stopped Burning: 9/11 and New York City in the Words and Experiences of Surviviors and Witnesses [Kindle Edition]

Charles B. Strozier

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...Strozier's intimate yet comprehensive, visceral, and intellectual dissection of 10 years of trauma, fear, and recovery is full of pain and mystery, radiance and strength. Booklist


Charles B. Strozier's college lost sixty-eight alumni in the tragedy of 9/11, and the many courses he has taught on terrorism and related topics since have attracted dozens of survivors and family members. A practicing psychoanalyst in Manhattan, Strozier has also accepted many seared by the disaster into his care. In some ways, the grief he has encountered has felt familiar; in other ways, unprecedented. Compelled to investigate its unique character further, he launched a fascinating study into the conscious and unconscious meaning of the event, both for those who were physically close to the attack and for those who witnessed it beyond the immediate space of Ground Zero. Based on the testimony of survivors, bystanders, spectators, and victim's friends and families, Until the Fires Stopped Burning brings much-needed clarity to the conscious and unconscious meaning of 9/11 and its relationship to historical disaster, apocalyptic experience, unnatural death, and the psychological endurance of trauma. Strozier interprets and contextualizes the memories of witnesses and compares their encounter with 9/11 to the devastation of Hiroshima, Auschwitz, Katrina, and other events Kai Erikson has called a "new species of trouble" in the world. Organizing his study around "zones of sadness" in New York, Strozier powerfully evokes the multiple places in which his respondents confronted 9/11 while remaining sensitive to the personal, social, and cultural differences of these experiences. Most important, he distinguishes between 9/11 as an apocalyptic event (which he affirms it is not;rather, it is a monumental event), and 9/11 as an apocalyptic experience, which is crucial to understanding the act's affect on American life and a still-evolving culture of fear in the world.


  • Format: Kindle Edition
  • Dateigröße: 1356 KB
  • Seitenzahl der Print-Ausgabe: 314 Seiten
  • ISBN-Quelle für Seitenzahl: 023115898X
  • Verlag: Columbia University Press (29. November 2011)
  • Verkauf durch: Amazon Media EU S.à r.l.
  • Sprache: Englisch
  • ASIN: B007R43EBY
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2.0 von 5 Sternen Disappointing instead of enlightening 6. Oktober 2011
Von Meredith Rutter - Veröffentlicht auf
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I didn't know anyone who died on 9/11. Geographically, a woman from the town next to mine in Massachusetts died on American Airlines Flight 11 when it crashed into the first (north) tower. Personally, the daughter of a close friend and colleague of mine lived in Manhattan at the time. Professionally, Day Two of a key training session for many employees in my company was cancelled an hour after it started, to be rescheduled when we knew what the hell was happening.

According to author Charles B. Strozier, in his book Until the Fires Stopped Burning, people in or near the towers, close enough to encounter death, were "survivors," in zone 1. People who were not close enough to encounter death but were close enough to see the disaster unfold (e.g., the burning buildings from a few blocks away) were "witnesses," in zone 2. My friend's daughter was a "participant," in Zone 3, being part of that day's chaos and trauma in Manhattan. My colleagues and I were "onlookers," in Zone 4, seeing everything in a virtual manner, on TV. Strozier delineates these four zones of sadness to discuss his conclusions based on interviews and studies he has conducted over the last ten years. Descriptions of the zones of sadness make up Part One of the book.

Unfortunately, only Part One of the book's three Parts had any true emotional and intellectual force, in my opinion. I bought the book because I believed the author's conclusions and considerations after ten years of scrutiny would be informative, given that he was a psychoanalyst in Greenwich Village and a history professor at the John Jay College of the City University of New York, where he created a Center on Terrorism in the late fall of 2001. But in comparison to the first part of the book, the other two parts were either obvious comments related to PTSD sufferers, for instance (and true enough, but not new) or esoteric and seemed a stretch too often. Several chapters were only tenuously connected to 9/11. His chapter on "traumasong" was hardly relevant to the rest of the book.

Not proofreading, but overall in the book--and I did read the whole thing--I noticed ten typographical errors, more than I'd fear to see in a book published by renowned Columbia University Press. I assume the errors were introduced by going to press too quickly. My favorite, and not to make fun of the event or to titillate, but omigawd what a typo, presumably was made by a transcriptionist, but the author certainly should have caught it. He quotes a woman who gave birth on 9/11 at a hospital in Greenwich Village, sometime that day but after the event. The next day, going home on the F train with her day-old baby, she thought her "universe" would fall out on the train. I don't think so.
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2.0 von 5 Sternen Not really as advertised 27. September 2011
Von ironindian - Veröffentlicht auf
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When I purchased this book, I was hoping for survivor accounts that helped shed new light on what it was like to be at the WTC on that awful day. And knowing that the author has unique qualifications to explain the mental trauma suffered, he seemed a natural choice for conveying a new understanding. Unfortunately, unless you have a clinical background in mental health, understanding his observations would be difficult at best. As for the survivor accounts, there are only a few from what he calls "zone 1". And they really don't deliver what the book promised--"Until the Fires Stopped Burning brings much-needed clarity to the conscious and unconscious meaning of 9/11". There are other accounts discussed, but they are from a witness perspective and removed from the danger, as most of us were. He also commits a great deal of ink to Holocaust survivors, drawing comparisons between them and the WTC victims, which is a stretch for me. I'm not belittling the accounts these people shared with him, and with us ultimately, but there's really nothing in this book that you haven't read, seen, or heard before.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen The fires still smolder 28. Februar 2012
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This book, based on extensive interviews with those who experienced 9/11 in one of what Strozier calls "zones of sadness", reminds us of the horror and the lasting psychological and political impact that this event has had on our lives, Strozier combines detailed descriptions of what people experienced on that day with psychological analysis of their reactions and the aftermath, and he places it all in historical context, in a way that only somebody trained, experienced and skilled in both history and psychology could do. He adds just the right amount of personal experience to the narrative. This is a story you should not miss reading and which you won't soon forget.
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4.0 von 5 Sternen The New Yorker's 9/11 9. Februar 2012
Von Jose RR - Veröffentlicht auf
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Reading the introduction and first few chapters of Until the Fires Stopped Burning can be rather jarring. It is as graphic as the first moments of Saving Private Ryan and full of information that had eluded me during the marathon of cable network specials & documentaries aired in the past decade. This book provides readers with an unfiltered glimpse into the World Trade Center disaster (not 9/11 as a whole) and its extensive aftermath. There is no evidence of self-censorship and much of the data (and all of the human element) is presented in a respectable manner while not shielding us from the true nature of terrorism.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Healing work for a New Yorker 9. April 2012
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Having been downtown throughout these events, I was gripped by other people's stories. I appreciated the psychological analyses of the anecdotes. Not only did the book help me to understand my own feelings a little more, it helped me to understand the contrasting sentiments of others who were outside of my geographic "zone of sadness," as described by the author. I would recommend this book for anyone who still has recurring thoughts of the day of September 11, or who wants to study PTSD around a single large-scale event.
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