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They Say/I Say: The Moves That Matter in Academic Writing [Englisch] [Taschenbuch]

Gerald Graff , Cathy Birkenstein

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18. März 2014
They Say / I Say identifies the key rhetorical moves in academic writing, showing students how to frame their arguments in the larger context of what others have said and providing templates to help them make those moves. And, because these moves are central across all disciplines, the book includes chapters on writing in the sciences, writing in the social sciences, and new to this edition writing about literature."

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This book uncovers the rhetorical conventions that transcend disciplinary boundaries, so that even freshmen, newcomers to the academy, are immediately able to join in the conversation. --Margaret Weaver, Missouri State University"

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4.0 von 5 Sternen Excellent book, good price 12. Mai 2014
Von gwca - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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I teach composition/rhetoric at a two-year college and I have required the previous (second) edition of this book for a couple years.

I chose this text initially because, unlike a lot of composition texts, the writing voice in TS/IS is very personable, easy to follow, and unpretentious. It occasionally shows a nerdy sense of humor which, surprisingly, my students don't seem to mind.

The book addresses issues that I wish I had been taught as an undergrad, like "saying why it matters," or even the concept of "they say/I say" itself, which looks at how to take empty, boring writing, and put it in context so readers are interested in it. Instead of lecturing about the same tired old essay structure, the book approaches the task like a personal quest: make yourself clear, be interesting, and have integrity as a writer. Anything it omits or only touches on, like MLA style or research tips, can easily be supplemented.

The publisher's price on the second edition (without the readings, many of which can be found online anyway) remains an affordable $25. And I was pleased to see this new third edition also at $25 (on the Norton site, anyway). The price allows me to pair this required text with another inexpensive book on style to capture the more technical side of writing.

My only disappointment is that while TS/IS is FINALLY available as an e-book in the new third edition, it is limited in platform, and comes with this disclaimer: "Our eBooks are Flash based and will not work on the iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch, and some Android devices."

So... my students can buy the cheaper e-book for only $15, but they can't view them on the majority of personal devices, which chips away a little at the advantages of the e-book in the first place.

Overall, though, the quality of the advice, content, and style in this book are still better than most texts I've worked with, so I will stick with it for the new year.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen A Major Resource for Incorporating Others' Ideas into a College-Level Argument 5. Juni 2014
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This book could be used for advanced HS students in its entirety. With scaffolding, the book is a fruitful resource for explaining and supporting the writing of the college level argument. The templates, though they may seem simplistic or mechanical, provide helpful models and scaffolds for the many "moves" in the written argument. The book doesn't cover rhetorical devices, but I have found that teaching each separately helps students.

The explicit professional examples and the templates address one of the greatest difficulties in the writing of so many students, incorporating quotations smoothly, what "They Say," and helping students maintain their voice in what "I say."
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5.0 von 5 Sternen My Ivy League mentor impressed by improvements I made using tips from this book 19. Juni 2014
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I am in a Ph.D. program at Cornell University, but having already completed an undergrad and a Master's degree, I thought my writing was pretty good. However, after using the tips from this book, my Ivy League professor told me my work had substantially improved. I absolutely recommend this book to anyone looking to improve their writing. I also recommend "Making Sense in the Life Sciences: A Student's Guide to Writing and Research" for anyone looking to help organize lots of information into a logical flow/argument.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen How to teach academic English 29. Mai 2014
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Yes, it's true. Academic English is another 'foreign' language. And this book shows the reader why this is the case. It has its own standards of usage, its own rhyme and reason, and it can be taught. What I find especially helpful is the notion that academic, who often are speaking to one another and not to the general public, utilize English in a way that makes many "outsiders." So take this book, look over the most common techniques and templates of academic usage, and you'll be playing ball with the pros in no time.
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4.0 von 5 Sternen Thank you. 20. März 2014
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Great book! I'm using it in my senior English Literature class. Highly recommended to high school and aspiring college students.
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