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The Complete Java Training Course: The Ultimate Cyber Classroom (Prentice Hall (engl. Titel)) [Englisch] [Taschenbuch]

Harvey M. Deitel , Paul J. Deitel
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  • Verlag: Markt+Technik Verlag; Auflage: Bk&CD-Rom (7. Februar 2000)
  • Sprache: Englisch
  • ISBN-10: 0130852473
  • ISBN-13: 978-0130852472
  • Größe und/oder Gewicht: 24,3 x 18,6 x 7 cm
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First off, let's get the nasty stuff out of the way: This is a book for teachers of rooms full of novice students. If you have any programming experience, the beginning section of the book will be tedious for you. In addition, if you prefer a chatty style, tons of real-world experience examples, and lots of lengthy explanations, you may be out of luck. But if you're in the market for a tool to teach inexperienced students--particularly for internal corporate IS departments who need to get a bunch of fledglings up to speed quickly--this could be the perfect solution.

This is a book-and-software package, so each is reviewed separately to give you an idea of what the whole is like.

Java How to Program shows its college textbook roots. It goes into great detail in the first chapter about exactly what a computer is, and contains a lot of information that is fairly redundant for anyone remotely connected with the PC industry. But as it builds into later chapters, using many exercises and walk-throughs, the depth and power of this textbook strategy becomes apparent. Utilizing tiny steps and mini-exercises, the book walks you through the details of Java programming at a glacial pace--which means that if you do all of the chapters in precise order, you'll have a firm grasp on the basics by the end of the book. It is also nicely spiced with good programming practices, common programming errors, and software engineering techniques that leaven some of the heavy, workaday writing. The book delves effectively into some advanced mathematical functions and their uses in programs, and works well for those who yearn for structure in their lessons.

Unfortunately, the book has some college-level weak points as well. Every subtopic is covered precisely once, so if you don't get it, you may never. (Fortunately, the Deitels have an eye for a good example.) Furthermore, there are exercises at the end of every chapter for the reader to do--but the answers are never given! Presumably, the answers are in the teacher's edition, but to provide questions and not solutions is an unforgivable error for a book supposedly aimed at the mass market.

The software is acceptable, but not stellar. Essentially, it is large portions of the book rewritten, with a few hyperlinks, burned on CD-ROM. The "Cyber Classroom" consists of clicking through large sections of text. You will find code samples from the book, but they are simply bits that have been cut and pasted into an HTML page and do not run live. With all of the potential for interaction here, it'd be interesting to, say, debug a couple of sample programs with a computer debugger that watches you and tells you why your fixes don't work.

There are tests, but they consist mostly of trivially simple true/false or multiple-choice questions, and all you get is the "right" or "wrong" answer; you don't find out why you were incorrect in the first place. Going through the CD-ROM will give you a good, solid foundation for Java programming in much the same way that the book will, but it is neither more or less helpful than the book itself. However, this book is useful for teaching a large number of students at once--and it is intended to do so. Corporations may find it a useful bargain. --William Steinmetz


Get fully-integrated, world-class Java 2 training at an exceptional price! This package includes the world's #1 interactive Java 2 tutorial on CD-ROM, the Java Multimedia Cyber Classroom, Third Edition -- with an all-new browser-based display engine that's more intuitive and fun than ever! You also get the best-seller Java How to Program, Third Edition, by the world's #1 team of programming authors and trainers -- completely updated for Java 2! The CD-ROM comes with 8+ hours of audio, hundreds of exercises, 350+ tips, and 12,000+ lines of tested Java code, all searchable and ready to run on Windows 95/98/NT 4.0! The book covers real-world Java and O-O programming, end-to-end. At over 1100 pages, it's full of tips, good practices, and pitfalls to avoid - plus hundreds of "live code" programs. CD-ROM and book work together perfectly, covering all you need to become a Java expert faster than you ever imagined!

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4.0 von 5 Sternen Wisconsin 28. Januar 2000
Von Ein Kunde
I purchased the JAVA 1.1 Complete version of this book. Deitel actually has "LIVE" code in that version that is usable and executable. The complete version of JAVA 1.1 was written in a different format than this one.. The interactive links in it are superior.
The second version is supplied in a HTML format. Half the programs in the interactive mode do not execute, link or save properly. I know it isn't the code.
This is really a shame. Deitel & Deitel are truly the best source on Programming yet! Java 2 is really tricky and half the book sources available are coding with deprecated(old and unexecutable) methods without an IDE that can migrate old code. This is so frustrating beyond end. The book is still excellent. It is a shame they migrated to this new format, otherwise it would deserve 5++ stars
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3.0 von 5 Sternen The Complete Java2 Training Course Problems 24. Dezember 1999
Von Crocket
I emailed the publisher 6 days ago and have not received a response. Since the publisher has not responded, I am not sure if I installed the cyber classroom incorrectly, or if there is a problem with the product.
The only links that seem to work are the links that take you to other pages within the text, or to someplace on the Internet. I have installed it twice and do not feel it is an installation problem.
I had to wait quite some time for the package to be delievered, and now find that it has problems. In its current form I do not feel the package is usable.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Teaching & Learning with Deitel's Java 2 11. März 2000
Deitel & Deitel's elegant format combined with comprehensive coverage of most OOP programming topics is unmatched. Their Java 2 with Swing book is not only the first, but probabaly the best for quite some time. All code snippets are accurate and work seamlessly with Inprise's JBuilder 3 IDE. The recent release of the associated "Cyber Classroom" CD-ROM is an awesome interactive traing tool that works well, especially with independent learners. I also use it with an overhead projection system in the classroom to facilitate student involvemnet.
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I have taken some training on Java before but could never get the concepts properly. This book was suggested for our advanced java course at our college. When I started using this book, I got very excited with the wonderful Java concepts. This book really eases the things for novice or intermediate programmer. After each chapter the book gives very valuable summary , tips, exercises which are very handy to remember the concepts. Each chapter is well organized and hits at all the basics and advanced cocepts.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Great Teaching tool! 9. März 2000
The book "Java 2 How to Program", is an excellent book for teaching and learning Java 2 programming. I use this book to teach a Java Course both at work and to our local users group. I found it's use of practical instructions, live code snippets, and pratical examples to be very useful in bringing Visual Basic, Delphi, and Cobol programmers into the world of Java!
In addition, "C++, How to Program" is also an excellent teaching tool as well.
Great job Deitel!
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Great TEaching tool! 9. März 2000
This book Java 2, How to Program is an excellent beginner to advanced book for teaching and learning Java 2. I actually use the book to teach a Java IS Course through our local users group and at work.
I found its practical instructions, live code snippets, and pratical examples to be very useful in bringing Visual Basic, Delphi, and Cobol programmers into the world of Java!
The C++, How to Program, is also an excellent teaching tool as well.
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