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Red Earth, White Lies: Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact [Englisch] [Taschenbuch]

Vine Deloria , Jr. Deloria
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  • Taschenbuch: 288 Seiten
  • Verlag: Fulcrum Inc (September 1997)
  • Sprache: Englisch
  • ISBN-10: 1555913881
  • ISBN-13: 978-1555913885
  • Größe und/oder Gewicht: 2,2 x 15,1 x 22,5 cm
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Vine Deloria, a leading native scholar and a uthor of the best selling God is Red, addresses the conflict between mainstream scientific theory about the world and th e ancestral worldview on Native Americans. '

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A challenge to rethink "scientific" theories about the world
Leading Native American scholar and author of the best-selling books God Is Red and Custer Died for Your Sins, Vine Deloria, Jr., addresses the conflict between mainstream scientific theory about the world and the ancestral worldview of Native Americans. Claiming that science has created a largely fictional scenario for American Indians in prehistoric North America, Deloria offers an alternative view of the continent's history as seen through the eyes and memories of Native Americans.

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4.0 von 5 Sternen Provocative and illuminating 12. Dezember 1999
Von Ein Kunde
If "science" is defined as a technique for gaining an understanding of the world around us, many "scientific" disciplines are in fact profoundly unscientific. In "Red Earth, White Lies," Vine Deloria, Jr. clearly demonstrates how conjecture can attain the status of fact, even in the face of overwhelming contradictory evidence. Perhaps even more condemning is Deloria's depiction of how alternative ideas, most notably indigenous traditions, are frequently (typically) cast aside without any investigation whatsoever, simply because they conflict with currently accepted norms.
"Red Earth, White Lies" is a wonderfully provocative indictment of how historical sciences, such as anthropology, geology, and ecology (my own field) frequently fail in practice. Nevertheless, perhaps without realizing it, Deloria relies on the very hallmarks of modern science; alternative hypotheses, critical analysis, and crucial evidence, to make his case.
Here, unfortunately, is where "Red Earth, White Lies" loses much of its power. While Deloria succeeds in casting doubt on many beliefs cherished by entrenched academics, he typically does not subject his own hypotheses to the same treatment. Even more unfortunate, Deloria himself employs some of the techniques he most violently condemns in academics, including the selective use of information (the most obvious example is on page 58) and summary dismissal of entire world-views on the basis of a superficial understanding (his entire discussion of evolutionary biology, for example).
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4.0 von 5 Sternen An interesting challenge to orthodox science 12. Juli 2000
As a years-long student of prehistory, Mr. Deloria's book was a breath of fresh air. As other reviews here have mentioned, the science here is hardly flawless, but Mr. Deloria does a valuable service in pointing out (among other things) where modern scholarship itself ranges from flawed to unsatisfying to ridiculous. Perhaps the best example he offers is the mass extinctions blamed on the Native American population; for many of us who have studied this matter in depth via geological strata and other methods, climactic change (which Deloria favors) is a far, far better explanation than claiming the Native Americans hunted them into the grave. I highly recommend this book for that reason, as well as the examples he points out of what amounts to racist scholarship--or at best, neglect. While I don't always agree with his work and often wished that he had provided us with more detail in several areas where both the folklore and scientific arguments were concerned, I generally agree with his conclusions, and consider this book a necessary read for anyone wanting to gain a broad understanding of American prehistory.
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4.0 von 5 Sternen Uneven but essential 25. November 1998
Von Ein Kunde
Vine Deloria Jr.'s book is a very useful and merited challenge to a whole host of theories, especially the Bering Strait land bridge, magafauna extinction ("Overkill") and some other things in which U.S. racism, capitalist waste and ruthlessness towards the environment, and scientistic narrowness are shown to be the underlying roots of these theories. However, I can't help but feel that Deloria both throws the baby out with the bathwater based on a kind of "multicultural creationism". For example, his attacks on Stephen J. Gould are almost ridiculous at times (given his prominence, not as a mainstream Darwinian, but as a 'catastrophist' and anti-sociobiologist) and represent the fact that he never got past Gould's first collection of essays. Also, Gould and others have for years defended allopatric speciation, which would allow a species' 'gestation' in 5-10,000 years. This type of narrow, shotgun scholarship makes Deloria subject to exactly the type of criticism he so correctly levels at academia. Also, his knowledge of genetics and evolution seem to leave a lot to be desired, and he clearly does not expect the reader to be scientifically literate (otherwise, he would not be able to make some of the peculiar remarks he makes about speciation). Anyone familiar with modern biology cannot but be amazed at how his work is little more than a reworking of Christian Fundamentalist creationism (or vice versa). Having said that, Deloria's value as an anti-racist, as a defender of the worth and validity and richness of non-white, non-European sources of knowledge is more than worth the occaissional bad science and anti-intellectualism. All I can say is that this is essential reading for anyone learning about the material he covers, and for thinking about how racism and power can determine whose knowledge is 'myth and fantasy' as much as it determines who is the 'terrorist' and who is the 'freedom fighter'. A must read book.
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4.0 von 5 Sternen Amazing! 5. Juni 2000
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This book is great! It makes so much sense about many things I used to question in our mostly boring science class. Once we were giants, CO2 has a bearing on growth, mammoths were alive in modern history, comets dumped snow, etc., and best of all: The Bering bridge is lie and so is the La Brea tar pits, and evolution is not tied up in a tidy package. I love it! I've read some of Vine's other books and I think he's hit the nail on the head here. Kids, take this book to school and watch your science teacher come all unglued!
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1.0 von 5 Sternen The myth of Native American mysticism
Once again Deloria blames everything on "white" people-- but what is his definition of white; does he mean English, European, Caucasian, Colonial American, Albino,... Lesen Sie weiter...
Am 18. Juli 2000 veröffentlicht
5.0 von 5 Sternen Red Earth, White Lies
The best book i've ever read! I'm buying several copies and giving them out. This is the most important book of TRUE american history and so-called science EVER written. Lesen Sie weiter...
Veröffentlicht am 5. Juni 2000 von windy
1.0 von 5 Sternen Incredible postmodern nonsense
I can't believe that anybody could take this book seriously. How could anybody in thier right mind think that all speculation should be given equal wieght? Lesen Sie weiter...
Veröffentlicht am 19. April 2000 von chris mankey
5.0 von 5 Sternen A book of fact and truth
The book gave me a sense of direction and hope in a world where so much has been lost , I would recommend this book to anyone worthy of taking the chance to find truth where their... Lesen Sie weiter...
Am 8. Oktober 1999 veröffentlicht
5.0 von 5 Sternen Refreshing insight into an old theory
Vine Deloria Jr. is a true scholar who characteristically approaches his subject with thorough research and disciplined reasoning. Lesen Sie weiter...
Am 11. Juli 1999 veröffentlicht
5.0 von 5 Sternen Cyclic vs. linear thinking
Deloria has done a great job: he tells us white people that things ain't that simple, that linear that is, as we like it. Lesen Sie weiter...
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Revelation to some, old history to others...
...thought provoking to all. Marvelously well written, with a sense of humor. Vine Deloria Jr. examines a world where science has become a secular religion. Lesen Sie weiter...
Am 4. September 1998 veröffentlicht
4.0 von 5 Sternen an intellectual approach to the modern day indian experience
the book marks the struggles of modern indians facing the millenium when science is considered diety. I read it with great criticism. Lesen Sie weiter...
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