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Dungeons and Dragons. Miniatures Entry Pack. [Englisch] [Sonstiges Zubehör]

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  • Sonstiges Zubehör
  • Verlag: Wizards of the Cost. (1. Januar 2003)
  • Sprache: Englisch
  • ISBN-10: 078693316X
  • ISBN-13: 978-0786933167
  • Größe und/oder Gewicht: 23,2 x 15,5 x 6,5 cm
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5.0 von 5 Sternen A great accessory for DMs 20. August 2003
1.) The much-discussed paint jobs are actually not bad at all and are many, many times better than even the best-painted Mage Knight figure I own. The lizardman's turtle-shell shield had even been inked to bring out the detail and even his tiny teeth had been painted.
2.) The scale is far closer to true 25mm than "heroic" scale, with variance in heights appropriate to the races. The elf for example is noticably smaller than the lizardman. Despite the "smaller" scale and the softer material, they still have very fine detail.
3.) The bases are indeed round and are the same 1" size. It was quitre easy to get the figures into base-to-base contact in many different configurations.
4.) The minis are very light and so transporting many hundreds of them should prove to be no problem at all.
5.) The bases are totally plain thus allowing for decoration.
6.) The sculpts are really pretty damn cool
1.) Each figure only has 2 or 3 colours, though I think this will probably vary with the rarer figs.
2.) The PVC is quite pliable so weapon bendage and breakage may be a problem with commercail releases.
3.) I would have liked the figure details on the bottom of the minis to be printed rather than sculpted, but a dry-brush over the raised letters could remedy this.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Nearly perfect for what it is designed to do. 8. Oktober 2003
Von Peter T. Lee - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
I enjoy painting miniatures, so I feel I need to explain how I could love a prepainted miniature game as much as I do. I love playing D&D, especially DMing the game, but it takes too long to put together a painted diverse group of miniatures for a game. The average time it takes me to paint a miniature is around 4 hours, and if I have an adventure with 50 monsters, that's 200 hours of prep-time -- I don't have that sort of time, especially to waste on rank-and-file troops. These prepainted miniatures are perfect for me to flesh out my adventure and let me concentrate on painting the miniatures that I want to paint. These prepainted figures should not be looked upon as works of art, as most well painted figures can be. These D&D Miniatures are tokens, and for what they're supposed to do, they're nearly perfect.
It's true that there are other prepainted figures out there, such as the Wizkids line, but the problem with these is that the click base interferes with a good D&D game. (I could rebase them, but that again takes time and ruins them for any MageKnight game.)
How are the miniatures? For approximately $1.25 a figure, they're what you would expect. Flexible plastic, limited colors schemes, and cheap. Which has a benefit: my personally painted figures I guard like gold while I carry the prepainted D&D Miniatures around loose in a cardboard box. No worry about them bending out of shape, and if they do bend out of shape I can reshape them by warming them in boiling water, holding them in a new shape, and cooling them in cold water. (Young children should have their parents help with this.)
Contents of the box: The starter set comes with 8 non-random terrain cards, a rule book, a 20 sided die, a players map, and 16 figures. (I believe the distribution is 1 rare, 5 uncommon, and 10 common, but it might be one less uncommon and one more common. Ultimately, you're better off getting two expansion packs than one starter if you're looking for rares.) Each figure has a statistics card, which allows for more tactics than the simple MageKnight click-base games. The flip side of the card has rules for using the figure in D&D.
Out of the box, the game plays pretty well. They have a simple ruleset where you just pick miniatures, but after you get a larger selection of them you can design your own alignment based faction and fight.
It's not perfect. For one, the flip side of the battle map has templates for some spell attacks, so you should photocopy them before you play (or get two starters...) I think the set is lacking in commanders which makes it difficult to put together a 100 point faction without a large amount of figures (I'd guess 1 starter and 6 expansions but since the figures are random it's hard to say.) I wish that they had included more possibilies for terrain cards had had included 8 randomly selected cards, to give a secondary collectable nature to the game. I also think that there should always be one large figure per pack, but instead only around half of the rares are large, and no commons or uncommons are rare. Finally, I wish that they had more care deciding figure distributions -- there are Unique figures, which means that you can only have one in your group. Since they're uncommon, you'll be more likely to get them, and having more than one unique figure is useless for the miniature game.
Most of my complaints are just nitpicking the game. The rules are well-written. The game is pretty fast paced, especially if you're already familiar with D&D. As a miniature painter/D&D player, I recommend both the miniatures and the miniature game they come with.
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4.0 von 5 Sternen Good miniature rules, poor paint jobs 1. Dezember 2003
Von C. M. Dobbs - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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There are several criteria by which I came to a 4 star judgement. Others may emphasize different aspects of the Harbinger miniatures - so it's important to know how I'm grading them.
1)Miniatures gaming system: the basic handbook that comes with the entry pack provides you with an important understanding of the skirmishes rules. The rules have been designed to facilitate much quicker battle resolution than with the more complicated combat system provided by the D&D RPG (unless you include too many combatants). The rules are for the most part understandable, with only a few complications. The miniatures are useful as a stand-alone product, and they come with their own statistic cards. (you can also play mass battles with the miniatures, rules are provided for that as well - but I have little personal interest in it)
AND These statistic cards can transform this stand-alone game into an accessory to your normal D&D RPG campaign to supplement battles - using the miniature battle system OR by using the reverse side of the stat card to use the miniature in the normal D&D combat rules.
2)Aesthetic: The miniature are POORLY painted, and are often bent (they are plastic, not metal). This upsets me given that I took great care to paint the old metal ones.
3)Randomization: For the old miniature players - its frustrating to not be able to custom assemble your army piece by piece. The current D&D miniatures come in randomized packs (much like Magic cards) - you don't know what you will get and you'll often be forced to trade to assemble armies to your satisfaction. This feature increases their collectibility, however and may be seen as a bonus rather than as a drawback (as I saw it).
In all, I believe that the miniatures are fairly affordable when compared to their metal predecessors. Their stand-alone playability makes them increasingly worthwhile for those that have no interest in standard RPGs. Lastly, I find their combat rules to be well written and brilliantly devised, while still based on creatures appearing in the various monster manuals.
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4.0 von 5 Sternen How did I live without them ? 12. Februar 2004
Von Will Gloeckle - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
Seriously, I've seen a lot of reviews insulting these new miniatures. Like the elf archer with an unpainted bow... maybe some of them are painted, just to make it different? Or the bow could always be made of darkwood, use your imagination, it IS a fantasy game. I love the fact the figures are hardcore plastic and prepainted, I really don't have the time or patience to paint the old metal ones. Not to mention the price ... the Entry pack alone, which has 16 random mini's, costs less at full price than one of the old set with only five characters. Why complain ? Be happy and rejoice in the laziness of it... and my orc army! Mwahahahahaa!
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3.0 von 5 Sternen It depends on what you want 15. November 2003
Von Ein Kunde - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
I have bought one entry pack of minis and one expansion pack from the Harbringer set. I have looked the models and have the following thoughts on them. The small and medium models with extermely small faces are just painted over without thought to extra detail(or redoing as some of paint wasn't on the face of one of my models) as well as any of the small items. However, the larger models, in my humble opinion, are done much better.
I think that if you don't like them or if you want to add extra or different details that you should repaint them. At least you don't have to glue them and find out that they don't fit together right.
So, if you don't want to spend a lot of time or money painting and are willing to have minis of mixed quality, then this set is good. If you are a diehard painter, convert kits, or want different looking models then you should go to another company.
As for me, I will probably buy a couple more packs and then try to find someone to trade figures with. I hope the Dragoneye and Archfiend set that I have heard about have taken consumer comments into account. Quick tangent, if the expansion were priced something like 10 figures for $15 and the paint jobs were a bit better, then I would be all over those packs.
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4.0 von 5 Sternen Good for the money 27. Februar 2004
Von Korilius - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
If you are a perfectionist about how well detailed your minis' should be then don't buy them. Go out and by the unpainted ones and derive your pleasure from painting in addition to gaming. If, however you are like most other people (myself included) who just want to enjoy the game and use miniatures for combat in DnD (mostly for visual ease) then by all means purchase them. For the money they can't be beat.
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