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  • Taschenbuch: 64 Seiten
  • Verlag: Osprey Publishing; Auflage: New. (22. März 2011)
  • Sprache: Englisch
  • ISBN-10: 1849081956
  • ISBN-13: 978-1849081955
  • Größe und/oder Gewicht: 18,5 x 0,6 x 24,9 cm
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  • Amazon Bestseller-Rang: Nr. 168.823 in Fremdsprachige Bücher (Siehe Top 100 in Fremdsprachige Bücher)

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Raffaele D'Amato was awarded a degree in Romano-Byzantine Law in 1993 from the University of Turin. He has collaborated with magazines and specialist publications in the fields of ancient and medieval history. He has written a number of magazine articles and published two books on the Mycenean age and Dark Age warriors. He is currently working as an external researcher at the University of Athens on several projects on the arms and armour of the eastern Roman army.

Born in 1962, Andrea Salimbeti has had a life-long interest in ancient military history, in particular the Bronze Age in Greece and the Middle East. He served as a paratrooper in the Italian Army in Beirut and attended the Space Academy and flight training in USA. He now works for the space program, and is also author of various articles on aerospace technology and flight equipment.

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Dieses Buch ist spitze.Es hat gute Bilder und ist gut gebunden.Verglichen zu den Griechen waren die Hethiter sehr schlecht ausgerüstet.
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A Real Bronze Age Greek Warrior 9. Mai 2011
Von Iggy - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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The book in undoubtedly very good in terms of the illustrations and the representation of material at times so old that there s no way of saying what exactly it represents. Due to the efforts of these talented archeologists and historians we can once again glimpse at the Bronze Age warriors of Achaea, also known as the Mycenaean Civilization (we r talking somewhere around 16th B.E.)

Of course, a few centuries from the 17th to the 20th are documented well enough to have more than a glimpse, but when it is 14-16 B.E. it is very hard to follow the intricacies of progress that may ve taken place during those times, and the authors are making a good point of that.

As we look into the obscure distant past, there s very little clear. Questions like "where was Troy?", "who were the Acheans?", "did events described in the Iliad really take place?" are all valid. But it is common silliness to ascribe to the people, warriors of these far away times the look peculiar to the Classical Greek, as depicted on numerous vases, etc. - the Greeks of the Classical period were depicting themselves, just as the Star Wars' creators had their characters dressed in the bell-bottoms with the typical 70's hair dos. From this standpoint, the above book is a good effort to unveil the distant mystery. The illustrations are very good and bright, but what is really awesome is the authors' humbleness in saying "this is what we have come up with after the long research - now you give it a shot".
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Superb description of little-known period... 30. September 2011
Von Brenda Miller - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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Finally, a real-life description of Bronze Age Greek fighters! Messrs. D'Amato and Salimbetti have done a superb job bringing this period to life both for the beginner in the field as well as for the expert. Giuseppe Rava's artwork is among the best I have ever seen in this series and is reminiscent of the great ilustrations of Angus Mc Bride. It is absolutely essential that the subjects of these historical studies be brought to life as much as possible for the modern reader and I have long been a harsh critic of the use of Medieval/Renasissance art in illustrating books on ancient armies simply because it is cheaper than hiring qualified artists. It is ultimately the reader who is deceived by false portrayals. Kudos to the authors and the illustrator!

The authors' descriptions of Mycenean society are as accurate as it is possible to be, given the almost total lack of any useful written evidence, and they simply cannot go any deeper into the complex (as far as we know) demographic and social structure of the period. What they do show accurately is the far more colorful and even gaudy, aspect of palace life in the Bronze Age when compared to the relatively somber aspect of Archaic and Classic Greece. Some of the illustrations could have been labelled more clearly, for example in the last plate, is that Wilusan officer really a Trojan? But this is quibbling and overall this is an excellent and much needed book. I hope this team will take on other ancient armies and even re-do some of the already existant volumes in the series. The horribly illustrated volume on the Spartan Army comes to mind as does the book on Alexander's army. The texts are ok, it is the artwork which is disappointing.
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Another good one 23. Januar 2013
Von JPS - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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This is a rather good - or even very good - Osprey title. One sign of this, for me at least, is that I finished it and wanted more. Perhaps it "could have been better", as another reviewer on the US site put it although, to be fair, it would have been difficult to achieve within only 64 pages. Yet another reviewer viewed this book as "a catalogue of weapons." This is true, but the book is also much more than that, in my view. This is largely why I liked and enjoyed this book, and this is also the point I will try to make in this review.

The scope covered in this book was particularly ambitious and goes well beyond describing the various weapons used and pieces of equipment, although there is this also, and it is rather well done and well backed up with illustrations, photos and plates.

I particularly appreciated the pieces on the so characteristic shields (tower shields, figure of eight and proto-dipylon) and the types of swords, daggers and helmets. The way the later are represented, in particular, illustrates rather well the evolutions between helmet-types. The pieces on armour and the section on chariots were also good, although given the scope chosen by the authors, I was left wanting more, in particular in the latter case (there is, however, another Osprey volume covering Bronze Age War chariots).

What the authors seem to have tried to do, and largely succeeding in doing despite the odds against them, was not only to describe the "Bronze Age Greek Warrior" between 1600 and 1100 BC but also to give a feeling of the Mycenean warrior culture. So the book is not limited to "arms and armour" and military organization, contrary to the rather limited scope that some Osprey Men-at-Arms volumes still adopt. It also includes the various aspects of warfare - naval warfare, sieges, the daily life of warriors and campaigns.

There is, however, a price to pay for being so ambitious. The book simply cannot - and therefore does not - go into as much detail on each and every aspect that the authors wanted to cover. So yes, indeed, the book "could have been better". It could then, for instance, have included an outline of the main chronological events and perhaps even a few vignettes on specific events or on the various states and Achean (or Mycenean) warlords that dominated during various periods. It could also, as another reviewer suggested, have included more examples of their very aggressive warrior-culture, piratical raids and expeditions and attacks against almost everyone in the Eastern Mediterranean. It finally could also have included a section on the rather mysterious "Sea People", some of which seem to have Acheans, and perhaps also something on the so-called "Dorians".

To achieve this, however, the book should have had at least the size of an Osprey Campaign volume (another 32 pages - 50% more than its current size), if not double its current size and that was clearly NOT possible, although I am quite that the authors and the illustrator would probably have been as delighted as their readers if it had been possible.

Anyway, and whatever its limitations regarding the amount of content that is included, one the main merits of this book is certainly to make the reader want to learn more about this little-known period. At least, this is how it worked out for me, and this is where I was a bit disappointed.

The bibliography seems to include either relatively old titles, or very specialized ones, with the most recent publications being Osprey titles. For instance, while Trevor Bryce's "Hittite Warrior" is referenced, I was surprised not to find any reference book on the Hittites (for instance Trevor Bryce's two volumes) or on the Myceneans, or even more generally on the Aegean Bronze Age (to paraphrase the title of Oliver Dickinson's book on this topic). I was also surprised not to find "the End of the Bronze Age" (to paraphrase yet another book title) and the catastrophe of around BC 1200 at least listed in the bibliography, especially since this book's scope, and some of its illustrations, cover the period up to 110 BC. Another little glitch, which another reviewer may have already mentioned, has to do with editing. There are one or two references to authors in the text that accompanies some of the illustrations which are not mentioned elsewhere, not even in the bibliography

Having mentioned this, and partly because I want to finish this review on a very positive note - but mostly because it is richly deserved - I must also stress that the illustrations are rather superb. I was almost tempted to say "as usual", given the illustrator's works on a number of other Osprey titles. As usual also, each of the characters presented in the various plates is adapted from archaeological findings (for instance the Dendra armour worn by the Achean prince on page 59, or from figures depicted on vases.

Despite limitations due to size constraints and to a selective bibliography (but then, as another author once said, a whole book would be needed for a comprehensive bibliography on the Myceneans), this is a good and valuable Osprey title.
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A Catalog of weapons 27. November 2012
Von Anibal Madeira - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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D'Amato and Salimbeti are a great team, always giving excellent material for scholars and layman to delight them. When teaming with their favorite illustrator, Rava, almost nothing can go wrong. And this Bronze Age Greek warrior is no exception.

Obviously we don't know many details about Mycenaean civilization, and what was true in 1600 BC could very well be different in 1200 BC. The sources are sparse, diluted in time and apparently this would be a wasted effort. It is not. This is the best compilation of material regarding to weapons, helmets and armor that I've ever seen in one book regarding this civilization. The incredible work of the authors manages to give the reader a glimpse of the Bronze Age war material that otherwise could only be studied reading several scholarly journals.

The classification of spears, swords and daggers are very clear and with good illustrations, the types of shields are detailed and the authors comment on their (possible) construction, helmets (great work on head decorations) and armor are also detailed with some important insights (like the fact that the Dendra Panoply had larger right arm hole). You will also find details about the several types of chariot that we know for this large period.

The art of Rava is, as always, excellent and dynamic. The plates focus the following themes: Achaean cult in Knossos (15-14th cent BC), Achaean warrior and his military equipment (15th cent BC), Warriors of the Late Achaean period, Late Achaean civilization in Achaia (1100 BC), Achaean warfare in the 16th cent BC (with a charging box chariot), Naval warfare, fighting on the Lokris coast, The lion hunt (great interpretation of the famous scene from a very well known dagger) and last but not the least, Achaean expansion in Troy and Anatolia.

Like the Homeric catalog of ships, detailing the vast Achaean armada, this book is in fact a catalog of weapons showing the military equipment of the long lost Mycenaean warriors...but it can't do much more than that in such small volume and with so few sources. The description of equipment and chariot types is great, the few pages trying to give life to the warrior wearing that equipment are unfortunately lacking information (but obviously there is no fault from the authors, they would have to go for lengthy academic debates if they followed that road).

Excellent photographs of artifacts, great comparative weapon charts (with classification, these drawings were made by Andrea Salimbeti...he knows how to draw very well!). Overall a great work.
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could have been better 17. Juni 2012
Von inner exile - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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Drawing on a wide array of archeological finds from tombs in shaft graves and circle graves, frescoes, pottery/krater, sculptures, linear B tablets, Homer's works, and occasionally referencing Egyptian and Hittite context, the authors attempt to reconstruct warring Achaean kingdoms that centered around palatial domains of Mycenae, Thebes, Pylos, Tiryns, Orchomenos. The major part of the booklet describes related material culture (pp. 11-47): clothing, various types of spears and javelins, swords and daggers, bows, arrows, slings, double- and quadraple-edged axes, helmets (conical, hollow-eyed, boar-tusk, tiara-like, beehive style), shields (tower-like, figure-of-eight, proto-dipylon, round), armour and its parts (breastplate, corselet, cuirass, shoulder guard, graves, "Zosteres-Mitra...composed of front and back plates laced to the body armour and intended to give added protection to the belly and waist" p. 39), war chariots and their fittings.
The above list comes alive in its entirety through the illustrator's creative reimagining in eight colour plates, some of which are partly based on rather primitive, stylized pictorial representations on kraters and seals.

"After the fall of the Cretan Thalassocracy around the 15th century BC, probably echoed in the legend of the mythical Achaean King of Athens Theseus and his war against the Cretan King Minos, the Achaeans began to build up their maritime power in the Aegean Sea...Achaean objects have been found even as far as Britain, and precious material such as electrum, which was used early in the Mediterranean and which has been found in the royal graves of Mycenae, has been also found in the Baltics" (p. 4).

As for the downside:

> I would have liked to read proportionately more about actual events during the half a millenium under discussion, and regarding the general background and warfare (naval clashes are covered to some length on pp. 48-51), not just what we are afforded on pages 4-11 and 47-58.
> While the central figures of the colour plates are depicted in more or less fine details (especially the warrors of plates B-C) and with expressive countenance, persons and objects on the periphery and those in the background, in addition to the landscape, are much less elaborate and sketchy enough, or even blurry in a hazy mist (p. 45). Or have a look at the gallopping lions in the distance on plate G (p. 55) - they are a tad laughable, imho. I'm not sure that even artistic perspective can justify this. Anyhow, D'Amato and Salimbeti's extolling Giuseppe Rava as "the true heir of Angus Mcbride" (see acknowledgements on p. 2) seems to me quite a bit of exaggeration.
> More than half of the authors mentioned in the main text are not listed in select bibliography (p. 61): Schachermeyr (p. 6), Nilsson (p. 8), Hoeckmann (p. 13), Graves (p. 17), Forrer (p. 58), Korfmann and Pernicka (ibid.)
> It would have been helpful to furnish non-specialist readers with a map to be able to locate the welter of sites, extending from the Greek Peninsula through the islands of Crete, Cyprus, Salamis, Kos (near Rhodes), to the Anatolian coast and as far south as Ugarit (Syria).
> Ambiguous/misunderstandable conclusion begging clarification: "The next reference to military activities with Ahhiyawa [elsewhere spelled 'Ahhijava': see p. 7; i.e., Achaea] comes from the time of the Hittite King Mursili II (c. 1310-c.1290). He [Mursili II] conquered the country of Arzawa [place or personal name?], which lay in the area of classical Lydia...Relying on Ahhiyawa's [Achaean] king, Arzawa engaged in hostilites against the Hittites and incited the land of Millawanda [Miletos] to rebel, but he [Arzawa as a personal name?; sentences structure does not indicate the Ahhiyawa king as the referent of personal pronoun 'he'] and its prince [that of Millawanda's] probably handed Ahhiyawa's king [?; Arzawa, instead] over to the Hittites" (p. 57).
In what little a quick search has yielded, there's no mention of any Achaean ruler ever being taken captive by the Hittites. Arzawa is a place name whose governor named Uhhazati in alliance with Achaeans, and later his grandson Piyamaradu, rebelled against Hittite authority. The so-called 'Tawagalawa Letter' demands the extradition of said grandson from the addressee, prince Eteocles. (Cf. Charles A. Burney - Historical Dictionary of the Hittites (Historical Dictionaries of Ancient Civilizations and Historical Eras) pp. 35, 201-2, 211-2, Scarecrow Press 2004).
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