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  • Taschenbuch: 80 Seiten
  • Verlag: Osprey Publishing (19. November 2013)
  • Sprache: Englisch
  • ISBN-10: 1780960964
  • ISBN-13: 978-1780960968
  • Größe und/oder Gewicht: 18,5 x 0,8 x 24,9 cm
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Mark E. Stille (Commander, United States Navy, retired) received his BA in History from the University of Maryland and also holds an MA from the Naval War College. He has worked in the intelligence community for 30 years including tours on the faculty of the Naval War College, on the Joint Staff and on US Navy ships. He is currently a senior analyst working in the Washington DC area. He is the author of numerous Osprey titles, focusing on naval history in the Pacific. He is also the author of several wargames. The author lives in Dunn Loring, VA.


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1 von 1 Kunden fanden die folgende Rezension hilfreich Von Tomsky am 16. Januar 2014
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Mark Stille is without doubt a knowledegable writer regarding naval technology of the first half of the 20th century. This clearly shows in the writing of his book at discussion. No one should expect a thorough review of every tiny detail in a brief volume like this but it is still surprising how much information is packed into the rather few pages of the book. Nevertheless some additonal tables of technical specifications with more detail on armament and fire control would have been appreciated.

But what utimatel can't keep up is the illustrations; be it photographs or drawings. A few contemporary full view photographs and some lackluster, low resolution drawings or 3D-renderings just don't cut it. If it has been just hurry to get the book done or skimping on licensing costs, this part of the book is an utter disappointment.

Due to the fact that Stille's writing is that good and informative "British Battlecruiser vs. German Battlecruiser" would have actually deserved 3.5 stars but its substantial illustrative deficencies plus the lacking technical specs don't grant a better rating than three stars.
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Ein wirklich guter und sachlicher Vergleich des Schiffstyps "Großer Kreuzer/Schlachtkreuzer" auf deutscher und britischer Seite. Da es eben dieser Schiffstyp war, welcher die großen Gefechte des ersten Weltkrieges ausgefochten hat, ist diese Abhandlung sehr interessant. Vorbehaltlos werden die Stärken und Schwächen beider Seiten dargestellt. Und das alles auf 78 Seiten. Hier hat Mark Stille es wieder geschafft alles unnötige wegzulasse und die Sache auf den Punkt zu bekommen.
Die Bilder und Skizzen ergänzen die Texte und lassen auch den Modellbauer nicht leer ausgehen. Für Freunde der grauen Schiffe ein Muss.
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Very good! It's astonishing, what amount of Info is given in such a short form! VERY honest about the weaknesses of the British BCs, and about the superiority of the German ones. Informative, and definitely NOT one sidedly written. Well done, Hermann
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"Our Cats Have Thin Skins”. 9. Dezember 2013
Von D. C. Stolk - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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In "British Battlecruiser versus German Battlecruiser: 1914-16, " author Mark Stille provides (in the 80-pages Osprey Duel Series-format) an enthralling account of the clash between the rival battlecruisers of the Royal Navy and the Kaiserliche Marine at the height of World War I. The battlecruiser was the brainchild of the visionary British admiral John 'Jacky' Fisher; sea battles at Dogger Bank and Jutland revealed critical firepower, armor, and speed differences in Royal Navy and Kaiserliche Marine (Imperial German Navy) battlecruiser designs.

Common perception is, that the sinking of the three Royal Navy battlecruisers at Jutland was caused mainly due to their “thin skins” (insufficient deck armor). As the then First Lord of the Admiralty, Winston Churchill, put it (the Lion-class battlecruisers were called "Splendid Cats"): “Our beautiful “Cats” had thin skins compared to the enemy’s strongest battleships. It is a rough game to pit ... seven or nine inches of armour against twelve or thirteen”. While true up to a point, author Stille provides enough evidence to support his assertion that other factors also played a major part in the disastrous destruction of these ships (British losses: 3,309 men killed, with only 11 survivors).

In a brief introduction, Mark Stille sketches how the concept of the battlecruiser came to be in “the Fleet that Jack built”. The introduction is followed by a concise comparison of the differences in design and development as well as the armament of the British and German “knights of the fleet”, as they were known, and their intended employment as a reconnaissance force, although this is not how they were used. He also outlines the strategic situation before the clashes took place, as well as the technical specifications of the ship-classes involved. In the chapter “the combatants” he briefly sketches the tactics and gunnery and fire control of the opposing sides.

In the “Combat” chapter, the bulk of the book, he provides us with a detailed account of the two major clashes between these two ship-types: “The Battle of the Dogger Bank”, 24 January 1915, which took place near the Dogger Bank on the North Sea, about 100 kilometers off the east coast of England, and “The Battle of Jutland” (Skagerrakschlacht in German), 31 May and 1 June 1916, which took place on the North Sea near Jutland, Denmark.

This is followed by an statistics and analysis-section and a conclusion, that, while the catastrophic loss of the three RN battlecruisers at Jutland has given the battlecruiser a reputation for vulnerability, the poor protection meant that the other shortcomings were more fully exposed, and that the primary reason for the loss was faulty powder and powder-handling procedures rather than the thin armor. Author Mark Stille is far from the only one who has reached this same conclusion:

As stated by Lawrence Burr in “British Battlecruisers 1914-1918” (p. 43): “If Indefatigable, Queen Mary and Invincible had followed the ammunition procedures…, they would in all probability have survived. They would have survived also if their cordite was made the same way as German cordite RPC/12”. A deduction also reached by British naval historian John Campbell, who concluded in his “Jutland: An Analysis Of The Fighting” (1986): "If British propellant charges had been used in the German ships, the Derfflinger would certainly have blown up as would in all probability the Seydlitz, and possibly the Von der Tann." (p. 380).

Surprisingly, no mention is made in the book of the fact that after the Battle of Jutland, initial investigations, both by Beatty and by the Admiralty, concluded that the explosions were due to the gun crews ignoring safety regulations in an effort to speed up their rate of gunfire. In other words: the officers and men of the lost battle cruisers were largely responsible for their own deaths. Jellicoe, promoted to 1st Sea Lord on 28 November 1916, and who did not want to damage the morale of the fleet any further, suppressed these findings, declared the matter closed and directed, that the loss of the battle cruisers would be officially attributed to the thinness of their armor.

The overall narrative is accompanied with clear, detailed maps, many period photographs and illustrations and color plates. The artwork is done by illustrators Paul Wright and Ian Palmer, and they do an commendable job. A great read on this subject. Recommended!

Note on the Kindle e-book version: this e-book, which was optimized for larger screens, was viewed on the Kindle Fire HD 8.9". A point of criticism (on the e-reader, not the book itself): the Kindle Fire needs a better "zoom"-function than the one provided, a feature which would have been extremely useful with the maps and some of the pictures.

For further reading on this subject, I recommend: for more technical information on the battlecruisers: “British Battlecruisers 1914-1918” (New Vanguard #126) by Lawrence Burr and “German Battlecruisers 1914-1918” (New Vanguard #124) by Gary Staff. And if you’re looking for a book-length coverage of the battles: “Jutland, 1916: Death in the Grey Wastes” by Peter Hart & Nigel Steel and “Battle on the Seven Seas: German Cruiser Battles, 1914-1918,” by Gary Staff.
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Superb history of World War One naval warfare! 20. November 2013
Von P. A. Panozzo - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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I really enjoy reading and studying the history of World War One and there is not an abundance of material available concerning the naval warfare from that conflict. This volume was an essential addition to my World War One library and I really came away with a better appreciation and understanding of the battles of Dogger Bank and Jutland. The battle scene and cover artwork by Paul Wright is awesome and the ship profiles, armament and gunsight views by Ian Palmer are well-executed! Mark Stille is a reputable naval historian and has authored many Osprey titles. Also by Mark Stille: British Dreadnought vs German Dreadnought: Jutland 1916 (Duel). Also of potential interest:Coronel and Falklands 1914: Duel in the South Atlantic (Campaign). and Q Ship vs U-Boat: 1914-18 (Duel). by David Greentree due out in 2014!
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One of the Better Conceived Osprey Books 10. März 2014
Von J. R. Trtek - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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Like most other Osprey volumes, this one is full of information and well illustrated. Unlike some, however, it is well-written and engaging, and presents a somewhat novel thesis. Though slim, making it almost an extended essay rather than a book-long treatment, this presents an enlightening perspective on the relative merits of German and British cruisers -- in particular, the examination of the the latter is particularly thought-provoking. Recommended.
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"There Seems to be Something Wrong with Our Bloody Ships Today!" * 4. Dezember 2013
Von Michael OConnor - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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In the snowballing naval arms race that erupted prior to World War I, the Royal Navy, thanks to the efforts of Admiral Sir Jacky Fisher, developed the battlecruiser design. British battlecruisers emphasized speed and armament over armor protection. Germany responded in kind but their battlecruisers did not sacrifice protection. Mark Stille relates the history of these competing designs and how they fared in the Great War in BRITISH BATTLECRUISER VS GERMAN BATTLECRUISER, 1914-16, a 2013 Osprey DUEL release.

Fisher had intended that RN battlecruisers act as long-ranging scouts for the fleet and also protect the English merchant navy from commerce raiders. Unfortunately, Admiralty brass couldn't resist the temptation to include battlecruisers as Inflexible, Invincible, Indomitable, Queen Mary and Tiger in the main battle line, a role they were not designed for. Initially such ships did well, sinking Scharnhorst and Gneisenau near the Falkland Islands in 1914. The acid test came at Jutland when three RN battlecruisers were sunk, mainly due to their inadequate deck armor protection. By contrast, only one German battlecruiser was lost, several others surviving extremely heavy damage thanks to their choice of armor over speed.

Stille has authored several DUEL titles, his book being an entertaining and informative summary of the competing designs and their subsequent careers and fates. The text is nicely complimented by photographs, diagrams and, especially, battlescene artwork by Paul Wright.

Though RN battlecruisers were sometimes referred to as 'Fisher's Folly,' they gave credible service when deployed in the mission for which they were designed. Unfortunately, for the crews of the Queen Mary, Invincible and Indefatigable, RN brass changed the rules and the ships and crews paid the price. BRITISH BATTLECRUISER VS GERMAN BATTLECRUISER, 1914-16 does a good job of tracing the histories of those warships. Recommended.

*****
*Admiral David Beatty, Battle of Jutland, 1916.
WWI Battle Cruiser s 3. Mai 2014
Von R. F. Garland - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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This was an enjoyable book and worth the price, but with not a great deal that would be new to the serious student.
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