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Authentic Fire: A Response to John MacArthur's Strange Fire (English Edition) [Kindle Edition]

Michael L. Brown
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Authentic Fire, by Michael L. Brown, is written in response to Strange Fire, written by Dr. John MacArthur. It is with good reason that pastors and leaders who differ with Dr. MacArthur on the issue of the Charismatic Movement do so with deference and respect, since his very substantial and beneficial contribution to the Church in this generation is undeniable. If we had more leaders like John MacArthur, the Church and the world would be in much better shape. But Pastor MacArthur's criticisms of the Charismatic Movement are inaccurate, unhelpful, often harshly judgmental, sometimes without scriptural support, and frequently divisive in the negative sense of the word. When he damns millions of godly believers, demeans the real work of the Spirit, accuses true worshipers of blaspheming the Spirit, and calls for an all-out war against the Charismatic Movement, a strong corrective is needed, along with a positive statement of the truth of the matter. Authentic Fire is not meant to be a rebuttal of Strange Fire at every point. Instead, while interacting at times with material from the book and conference, and while correcting what the author believes to be serious errors and misstatements, the book is more of a positive response to Strange Fire. Authentic Fire will serve a lasting, worthwhile purpose even for those who will never read Strange Fire.

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  • Format: Kindle Edition
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  • Seitenzahl der Print-Ausgabe: 326 Seiten
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  • Verlag: Excel Publishers (12. Dezember 2013)
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  • Sprache: Englisch
  • ASIN: B00HAMUVUA
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Authentisches Feuer von Michael Brown 21. Januar 2014
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Sehr schriftgemäß und überzeugend Auslegung für Continationism.
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Super Buch, inhaltlich klar und direkt, gut argumentiert und gründlich erarbeitet. Dr Brown kann man vertrauen.

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5.0 von 5 Sternen Keep the authentic fire burning 14. Dezember 2013
Von Steven S. Alt - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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In his book, "Strange Fire," John MacArthur levels a multi-pronged attack on the Charismatic movement. In "Authentic Fire" Michael Brown answers to these criticisms in a respectful and irenic tone, calling for unity and mutual appreciation, rather than division and exclusion. Brown repeatedly emphasizes that the Charismatic movement needs John MacArthur and what the cessationists contribute to the church, while the cessationists also need the things the Charismatic movement contributes.

After showing MacArthur to be guilty of inaccurate sweeping generalizations Brown goes on to demonstrate the many contributions made by Pentecostals and Charismatics in the last century - a necessary inclusion because MacArthur repeatedly makes the untenable claim that Charismatics have contributed nothing to the church. Then Brown accuses MacArthur of having a blind spot regarding his opinion of Charismatics. By this point the reader can hardly disagree. Brown even points out that MacArthur's criticisms of Charismatic worship may be as much because they are not hymn-like, as his tradition prefers, as they are because of their alleged superficiality. An entire chapter is devoted to the concept that different preferences of style need to be appreciated, and MacArthur's failure to recognize this is a significant part of the reason he has no place for Charismatics at his table of fellowship.

In one chapter Brown works form Jonathan Edwards' list of tests to determine whether a movement is from God, and shows how the Charismatic movement passes all of Edwards' tests of authenticity. This comes on the heels of revealing that MacArthur grossly misrepresented data from surveys, from which he concluded that the actions of a few Charismatic preachers on TBN represent the beliefs of the entire worldwide movement. Brown supplies further information on the results of the survey, demonstrating that almost the opposite conclusions should be drawn than the ones represented in Strange Fire.

But the greatest strength of Authentic Fire is its longest chapter, on the biblical teaching. In "Sola Scriptura and Therefore Charismatic," Brown convincingly shows that the Bible nowhere teaches the cessation of the gifts of the Spirit, but rather assumes their continuation. That the cessationist movement, which is so strongly centered in Scripture alone as the basis for their beliefs, is itself based on a doctrine not taught in Scripture, is so ironic it cannot be missed.by the reader.

One of the most impacting parts of the book is the chapter on "A God to Be Experienced." The attraction of a God who speaks to his people and demonstrates his power through them is a large part of what makes the Charismatic movement popular. Brown makes an appeal to every Christian to experience God as he really is and not reduce him to words on a page.

An unusually large percentage of the book consists of appendices, which address specific subjects not broached elsewhere in the book. This book should not be put down until they are read, especially the first one, where Craig Keener demonstrates the power of God through stories of healing and miracles from all over the world.

Ultimately, Brown makes a very convincing argument that Strange Fire fails to present a convincing biblical argument for cessationism, using misinformation and sweeping generalizations to write off the entire Charismatic movement because of the questionable practices of a small percentage of wayward leaders. In his defense of the Charismatic and Pentecostal movements, he does not excuse the excesses and abuses, with are many. But he defends orthodox Charismatic Christianity from a strong biblical stance, and from a biblical point of view, calling for unity and fellowship, rather than judgment. I highly recommend both the book and the spirit behind it.
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Like in Corinth there is Strange Fire in the Church, but there is also Authentic Fire 14. Dezember 2013
Von Peter Pellerin - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
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Are charismatics Christians? Dr. MacArthur has his doubts about the vast majority of them. This is an extremely divisive position. Dr. Brown's reply in "Authentic Fire" is a book that needed to be written and I consider it a must read. Dr. Brown demonstrates that the Bible is very clear on these issues when the texts are interpreted in a straightforward way. The cessationist viewpoint is based on reading their experiences into the text, not on the sound exegesis scripture.

In the 1st chapter, Dr. Brown highlights how Dr. MacArthur is calling for a "collective war" against charismatics. The language Dr. MacArthur uses to describe all charismatics needs to be read to be believed. If charismatics are truly not believers (I include myself here) and we are leading others astray, then strong language is needed. However, Authentic Fire demonstrates that this is clearly not the case. Dr. Brown did an amazing job in a short amount of time demonstrating the errors in Dr. MacArthur's statements from both a scriptural and historical perspective.

One blogger Dr. Brown cited highlighted a certain pastor who has engaged in an "endless stream of smug, back-patting tweets-which receive self-congratulatory kudos from his fawning fans." This kind of attitude has no place within Christianity.

In the 2nd chapter, Dr. Brown demonstrates that charismatics (including him) have been speaking out about the abuses and false teachings that have arisen within the charismatic movement. He has been addressing these things in writing, as have many others. Dr. Brown closes this chapter with an important thought. Many children who grow up in cessationist denominations are becoming atheists when they get to college. "When they grow up and go to college, they just take that next step and doubt ALL miracles, including those in the Bible." If there is a valid other worldly experience with God that Christians experience today, how badly do we need to seek Him for it! How we need to lead our children in seeking Him? We need all that He has for us! We desparately need to teach our children to seek all that He has for them!

In chapter 3, Dr. Brown demonstrates clearly that the strange fire movement is blind to what charismatics are doing around the world. They only see the TBN charismatics and have not taken the time to get to know charismatics. He is careful not to accuse Dr. MacArthur of willful ignorance, but there is a clear massive blind spot in his thinking and knowledge of what is going on within the church.

Chapter 4 is extremely important. This chapter demolishes some of the main arguments used to attack charismatics and demonstrates how they were based on the genetic fallacy. Much of the discussion at the strange fire conference engage in "guilt by association". In an excellent discussion, Dr. Brown demonstrates how this "cuts both ways". Reformed theology and dispensational theology can be argued against with the same line of reasoning. I do not agree with Dr. Brown's position on dipsensational theology :), but you can't write off an entire move of God because of a few bad apples early in the movement. You must use the same "weights and measures" when you analyze your own beliefs.

In chapter 5, Dr. Brown goes through the ways to test whether or not a move is from God and the arguments that must not be used to say that a move is not from God that were developed by J. Edwards. There is a very important discussion in this chapter on the survey statistics that Dr. MacArthur used. I think you will find how this data was used to be both dissappointing and shocking.

In chapter 6, Dr. Brown spends some time demonstrating the case that cessationism is scriptually untenable. A strong case can be made for the continuation of the gifts, and there is no clear case against it. What is clearly demonstrated is that cessationists are not approaching scripture in a straightforward way, but are interpreting the scripture in light of their experience.

In chapters 7-8 and 10, Dr. Brown's emphasizes a need for unity among true Christians. How should we discuss disagreements on non essential issues? We need to look carefully at the way in which Paul addressed the Corinthians as a model. He goes through some historical examples of Christians attacking one another (such as the debate over the nature of Christ and the Baptism of infants). Dr. Brown's heart is that we need each other and we need to be working together.

He also includes a chapter demonstrating that the God of the Bible is a God who is to be experienced (chapter 9). In this chapter, Dr. Brown discusses some ways in which God works today. Are we to reject all this as happenstance or even as demonic? There is also another important discusssion concerning how we respond to God in worship. Are we to reject Biblical forms of worship and only worship the way cessationists say we should? Should we worship with mind only or with our whole being?

The appendices are also a must read. In the first appendix, Dr. Keener addresses miracle, prophecy, and tongue accounts around the world. He also addresses with firsthand knowledge the broad brushing of African charismatic Christianity. The Strange Fire conference committed some serious slanderous sins concerning brothers and sisters in Christ and they should repent. They accuse the charismatics of witchcraft in a broad brush way, without recognizing that their theology is not based on scripture, but based on the incorporation of the Western cultural antisupernatural bias into their Christianity.

Charismatics need to continue speaking out against the false teachings within the movement. Cessationists rightly point out many grevious errors. However, cessationists are committing some serious errors of their own. Our God hates the sin of one who sows discord among brethren. We all need to work out our salvation with "fear and trembling".
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5.0 von 5 Sternen A Spark of Revival! 12. Januar 2014
Von Mr. Tracey McKinney - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
Format:Kindle Edition
God has used this book and the controversy of the "Strange Fire Conference" to spark a revival in my life and cause me to become a continuationist again! I am seeking God for a personal revival in my own life so that Jesus would be glorified and others may catch the fire. Oh! what would happen if the hearts of those in the cessationist camp would be opened up to the truth of the power of the Spirit through this book? I love John MacArthur and have greatly benefitted from his sermons over the years, but his conference along with Dr. Brown's book has made me aware of a spiritual lack in my own life that only the gifts and power of the Holy Spirit can supply. Dr. Brown's attitude toward MacArthur drips with grace, love, and humility; truly the spirit of Christ. Who knows? God just may use this to open John MacArthur's eyes and many others with him...and oh what a revival might take place in the American church!!!
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Balanced approach to the subject 14. Dezember 2013
Von Scott Jensen - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
Format:Kindle Edition
I was afraid this book would swing the pendulum to the other extreme from John MacArthur's book, but Dr. Brown does a very good job of focusing on scripture, while also addressing church history and modern church culture.

The writing was fairly in-depth, but still very readable and engaging
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5.0 von 5 Sternen Clear, Fair, Articulate Response to John MacArthur's Strange Fire 20. Dezember 2013
Von Glenn A. Bolan - Veröffentlicht auf Amazon.com
Format:Kindle Edition
Often when responding to an extreme statement or position, our human tendency can be to swing the pendulum too far in the other direction; likely in the attempt to ensure that our point is received with equal importance and urgency. In fact, MacArthur notes, "..I'm willing to be accused of broad-brushing in order to get that message out." ([...]

However, Dr. Brown doesn't do this in Authentic Fire. At the risk of potentially being accused of not being strong enough in his response, he fairly and sensibly lays out his points without compromising on his sola scriptura Continuationism position. In fact, not only does he not compromise on it, but he clearly and logically addresses any thought that Cessationism can be a Biblical position and shows without question that the Biblical position is Continuationism.

Some key points that I really like about the book:

1) He's gracious in his tone and addresses John MacArthur in a respectable way as an elder brother in Christ.

2) He does a superb job of clearly and logically rebutting key Strange Fire points - with Scripture as his foundation. (As apposed to Strange Fire, which is less (or, nothing really) to do with a Scriptural position against Continuationism or for Cessationism (because one can't be made!) and more about pointing out abuses (in some cases correctly) in the Charismatic movement, pointing out people's failings, making the example of money-hungry televangelists into a caricature of the whole Charismatic movement, and (to MacArthur's great logical discredit) using the genetic fallacy to support his view of the Charismatic movement).

3) He makes a strong and pragmatic call for unity in the body of Christ (because, yes, Cessationists are still part of the body of Christ).

4) Authentic Fire, while a response to John MacArthur's Strange Fire, also stirred me up in my hunger for knowing God and his Word more.
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